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I believe emphatically that Osama Bin Laden is dead and has been since 2002. That is when he was last seen in a video with proof of life. Since then we've gotten a few videos with no proof of life and a few audio tapes of questionable authenticity (an independent Swiss lab contradicted the CIA's confirmation of Bin Laden's voice at one point...)

I believe Bin Laden most likely died in an air strike and was buried in the rubble, such as underground in a cave. That would explain the absence of a celebration of his martyr status; his followers couldn't even be sure he was dead at the time...

I am frustrated that none of our intelligence agencies have bothered to call out Al Qaeda on this and ridicule them into producing proof of life or admit that he is a gone pecan...

1 posted on 07/15/2007 2:39:27 PM PDT by LSUfan
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He’s pinin’ for the wadis...


2 posted on 07/15/2007 2:40:38 PM PDT by RichInOC ("THIS IS AN EX-TERRORIST!")
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Newsbusters stated that the clip is from 2002.


3 posted on 07/15/2007 2:41:39 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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I really don’t think the issue is whether OBL is alive or dead. I agree with the analysis is that, this video is a signal for something to happen.


4 posted on 07/15/2007 2:42:08 PM PDT by Perdogg (Support the President's Policy in Iraq)
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He’s dead Jim.


5 posted on 07/15/2007 2:42:39 PM PDT by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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Even if Osama is still alive...
We’ve won!

Because even Al Queda has been so corrupted that they’ve adopted a
method of the decadent Westerners in the Hollywood television industry:

The Summer Rerun!


6 posted on 07/15/2007 2:44:15 PM PDT by VOA
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Miracle Max: He probably owes you money huh? I’ll ask him.
Inigo Montoya: He’s dead. He can’t talk.
Miracle Max: Whoo-hoo-hoo, look who knows so much. It just so happens that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead. There’s a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there’s usually only one thing you can do.
Inigo Montoya: What’s that?
Miracle Max: Go through his clothes and look for loose change.


8 posted on 07/15/2007 2:47:24 PM PDT by golas1964 (www.imwithfred.com)
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I am frustrated that none of our intelligence agencies have bothered to call out Al Qaeda on this and ridicule them into producing proof of life or admit that he is a gone pecan...

Maybe because they know otherwise? Nah, couldn't be that.

And being serious, if UBL was killed (via air-strike, bullet or through disease brought on by being force to eek out his survival in the Stan/Pak border regions)....Sr. AQ elements would be more then aware of such.

AQ does not hide their leaders deaths. They celebrate them. It is how they honor them. It would be seen as a great insult to UBL had he passed and AQ failed to recognize his passing....Again, it is much easier to spin the truth....then to hide a lie....

And understand it is not in your enemies interest to show you what you want to know....AQ/UBL would be happy to think that some of us wonder at times if we are chasing a ghost..

We'll put guns or a JDAM on UBL worthless as$ one of these days...just as we did Saddam & Zarqawi and another dozen HVTs we've chased for 5 years... (and there were many who insisted they were either dead or didn't exist altogether as well).

10 posted on 07/15/2007 2:51:36 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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In my opinon Osama bin Laden is dead!!! I’ve got a funny feeling that Ayman al Zawahiri had him killed. bin Laden had served his purpose for the jihadis by defeating the Soviet Union in the Battle of Aphganistan. Unfortunately, he tried to replicate that event with the 9-11 terror bombing and the subsequent war in Aphganistan. bin Laden thought that he could sucker the US into invading Aphganistan and then he could defeat us there like he did the Soviets. He miscalaculated and Al Qaida was badly routed in Aphganistan and had to retreat to Pakistan.

After that, I suspect that Al Zawahiri decided that bin Laden was no longer capable of leading the jihad movement and had him bumped off. Now Zawahiri is free to direct Al Qaida as he wishes. He can pull out an old bin Laden videotape whenever he thinks the movement needs some “inspiration”.


13 posted on 07/15/2007 2:57:01 PM PDT by NRG1973
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Whether that carpet kisser is dead or not is really of little significance. There are plenty of others that are capable of picking up right where he left off.


14 posted on 07/15/2007 3:02:29 PM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08! Return our country to the era of Reagan Conservatism)
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“There’s a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there’s usually only one thing you can do - go through his clothes and look for loose change.”


19 posted on 07/15/2007 3:10:18 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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There was a video of obl ( supposedly ) that was released right before the 2004 election that had him repeating a bunch of Michael Moore propaganda from his movie that came out in 2004. I don’t know if any experts other than State Department weasels or MSM types looked at it to vouch for its authenticity.
21 posted on 07/15/2007 3:19:26 PM PDT by Perchant
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He became little particles when they bombed him.


23 posted on 07/15/2007 3:22:02 PM PDT by freekitty
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Osama doesn't stand a chance getting the DemocRATic nomination ... oh wait, Osama! nevermind /Latella
27 posted on 07/15/2007 4:03:12 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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I believe emphatically that Osama Bin Laden is dead and has been since 2002.

From your lips to Gods ear.


28 posted on 07/15/2007 7:30:21 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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Despite ‘conventional wisdom’ I think he has been dead for a long time now. We have not seen a video of him of anything remotely current since long before we went into Iraq, and there are just too many things for this guy to crow about in the past 12-24 months.


30 posted on 07/15/2007 7:32:25 PM PDT by ilgipper
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