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"Our Two Lives Include a Third?" (NY Times Journalist's Accidental Pregnancy)
New York Times ^ | July 15, 2007 | RONDA KAYSEN

Posted on 07/15/2007 6:26:07 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

TWO weeks after my husband and I quit our jobs, gave up our Brooklyn apartment and moved to Mexico to travel and work as freelance reporters, I discovered I was pregnant. Among the subjects I hoped to write about in Mexico was its restrictive abortion laws. Now I was contemplating an abortion myself. Even though my period was 10 days late, it hadn’t occurred to me that I could be pregnant....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Mexico
KEYWORDS: abortion; dilemma; freelance; freespirit; kaysen; liberals; nytimes; pregnancy; prolife; rondakaysen
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To: VOA; craig_eddy; mefistofelerevised; Mrs. Don-o
See report data in post 20.
21 posted on 07/15/2007 6:54:50 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: theBuckwheat

Amen....these people are pathetic and there’s MILLIONS like them here.


22 posted on 07/15/2007 6:56:12 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary in '08.....Her PHONINESS is GENUINE !!!!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It is time for both of them to grow up. I pray that the baby may help bring that about, but I am not optimistic.


23 posted on 07/15/2007 6:56:26 AM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: raybbr

re: the statistical data,

As a good scientist friend of mine says, “Nothing like some contrary
data to destroy your favorite theory”

Of course it won’t matter to a former NY Times reporters.
For them it will be “false, but true”.


24 posted on 07/15/2007 6:57:43 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Someday this kid is going to love his mother for saving his life, and hate his sperm donor for wanting so badly to be rid of him for lifestyle reasons.

So much for the orginal argument about abortion needing to be legal to save the life (style) of the mother.

(Interesting insights into the sperm donor’s liberal logic about abortion- better to have an abortion than ride around pregnant without a seat belt)


25 posted on 07/15/2007 7:03:32 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The father is a self-centered jerk.


26 posted on 07/15/2007 7:06:45 AM PDT by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security. Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I find this article so disturbing. The liberal mindset, of which I was one, is so clearly present here. Its all about THEM. As someone else mentions, there is no discussion of the FACT, whether you believe its murder or not, that Abortion = Killing Babies. Period. And I say that as someone who has slowly come over to the pro-life crowd (Thanks to my friend on FR). So I still know how they think and reason.

One of the good things about Mexicans is that they LOVE babies, obviously. Perhaps the influx and growth of the Mexican American population (whether we fix the borders or not, this is going to happen), will bring a new appreciation overall towards babies and Life.

27 posted on 07/15/2007 7:07:30 AM PDT by Paradox (Foreign Policy suggestions from Jimmy Carter are like Beauty Tips from Rosie O'Donnell)
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To: madprof98
"...- it is all about what is right for us, right now, in our lives".

The reality is the baby comes to live with you not the other way around. Her last sentence is what awaits all parents, the one that I still am enjoying……….

28 posted on 07/15/2007 7:15:46 AM PDT by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
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To: raybbr

I read a small part of the report. It’s the obvious. Thanks. Too early for me to read 58 pages right now. I need coffee.


29 posted on 07/15/2007 7:16:42 AM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: theBuckwheat
"Wait until she has an ultrasound and sees her child and hears its beating heart."

I hope her and husband see the baby throwing them the finger.

30 posted on 07/15/2007 7:17:54 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: nyyankeefan
I liked the part that she was so busy packing she didn’t even remember if they had sex. Real romance in that marriage. Shallow liberal nothings. They shouldn’t have kids.
31 posted on 07/15/2007 7:25:12 AM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: Talking_Mouse

The Lord is already at work with them. There they are in Mexico, surrounded by people with children, little babies everywhere. They might never have thot of keeping that child were they in NYC still. And once that child is born, they will never be the same. “Theoretical” hits Reality. Reality wins.


32 posted on 07/15/2007 7:28:12 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

How does someone “accidentally” have intercourse?


33 posted on 07/15/2007 7:29:45 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: madprof98
What is always, consistently and invariably missing from this kind of reflections is any kind of moral sensibility. There is no essential understanding of right or wrong expressed (although it's hard to believe it's not felt at some level)

Wow, talk about literally throwing the baby out with the bathwater! Amy Welborn must have one of the tinniest ears in the Western world!

The mother-to-be didn't put her moral sensibility into "religious speak" or the kind of right-and-wrong language that apparently will appease dogmatic Catholic demands. But the piece is literally pregnant with moral sensibility! What's more important, it was actually published in the NYT, where it has a very good chance of influencing a lot more liberal minds that have been brainwashed by the "pro-choice speak" of the writer's husband. It will save babies' lives!

The author of the piece clearly knows right from wrong on an unspoken but obvious level. And that perception will now reach many more like her, coming as it does from a "culturally acceptable" point of view. We will win this war one mind and one baby at a time, not by forming our usual "purist" circular firing squad.

I happen to be agnostic when it comes to divine influence. I'm not wishy-washy: I just don't have so much arrogance as to believe I can know the Great Mystery. Nor do I believe any other mere mortal can, not the Pope nor any other religious leader. What's much more important to me is living a moral and ethical life and espousing positive life-affirming values. That I try to do. If Amy Welborn doesn't like my position, or the author's, she can tend her own Holy water.

34 posted on 07/15/2007 7:33:26 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Wonder if her husband is the boyfriend she talks about in this article:

“I feel your pain: Learning to live with a Red Sox fan”

By Ronda Kaysen

“By the time my boyfriend told my mother, over brunch in a Downtown cafe, that missing the afternoon’s Red Sox game was akin to missing the birth of his first child, I already had a good hunch of what future lay ahead for me. Chances are it involves a TV in the delivery room.”

http://www.thevillager.com/villager_77/ifeelyourpain.html


35 posted on 07/15/2007 7:37:00 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Bernard Marx

Plenty of ranting and raving in your reaction, but nothing about what Amy actually said—that the one and only ethical standard the writer upholds, and the only guide she followed in reaching her decision to give birth, is “what is right for us, right now, in our lives.” That’s why the NYTimes printed the piece; it would also have printed it if she had decided on partial-birth abortion, or infanticide for that matter, as long as it felt to her like the thing to do at the moment.


36 posted on 07/15/2007 7:38:27 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: craig_eddy
So, to a liberal the pregnant Mexican woman is only here because her husband dragged her across the border. He came because he was forced by "big farming" (Bush's buddies, all) to come to do work that "Americans won't do." See, doesn't that make more sense?

As the late Steve Allen used to say, "You can't argue with that logic."

37 posted on 07/15/2007 7:46:20 AM PDT by Erasmus (My simplifying explanation had the disconcerting side effect of making the subject incomprehensible.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Their first instinct was to kill the child.That’s all I need to know.”You won’t be able to climb the pyramids”..INDEED!
38 posted on 07/15/2007 7:52:20 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: raybbr

I dunno, CITIZENSHIP?


39 posted on 07/15/2007 7:57:30 AM PDT by TxCopper
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To: VOA; craig_eddy; mefistofelerevised; Mrs. Don-o
I read a small part of the report. It’s the obvious. Thanks. Too early for me to read 58 pages right now. I need coffee.

It wasn't the report, per se, I was interested in. It was the stats. The author is bragging about the great care babies get in mexico compared to the U.S. According to the report the neo-natal fatality rate is over 3X that of the U.S.

I realized something. She's being used and doesn't even know it. They must know she's a journalist. They give her access to all the best care knowing she'll write these glowing stories while the proletariat in mexico dies around her out of her sight.

40 posted on 07/15/2007 8:21:10 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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