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Iraq PM: Country can manage without U.S.
Associated Press ^ | Jul. 14, 2007 | BUSHRA JUHI

Posted on 07/14/2007 9:38:55 AM PDT by Dubya

BAGHDAD -- Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Saturday that the Iraqi army and police are capable of keeping security in the country when American troops leave "any time they want," though he acknowledged the forces need further weapons and training.

The embattled prime minister sought to show confidence at a time when congressional pressure is growing for a withdrawal and the Bush administration reported little progress had been made on the most vital of a series of political benchmarks it wants al-Maliki to carry out.

Al-Maliki said difficulty in enacting the measures was "natural" given Iraq's turmoil.

But one of his top aides, Hassan al-Suneid, rankled at the assessment, saying the U.S. was treating Iraq like "an experiment in an American laboratory." He sharply criticised the U.S. military, saying it was committing human rights violations, embarassing the Iraqi government with its tactics and cooperating with "gangs of killers" in its campaign against al-Qaida in Iraq.

Al-Suneid's comments were a rare show of frustration toward the Americans from within al-Maliki's inner circle as the prime minister struggles to overcome deep divisions between Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish members of his coalition and enact the American-drawn list of benchmarks.

In new violence in Baghdad on Saturday, a car bomb leveled a two-story apartment building, and a suicide bomber plowed his explosives-packed vehicle into a line of cars at a gas station. The two attacks killed at least eight people, police officials said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorize to release details of the attacks.

Thursday's White House assessment of progress on the benchmarks fueled calls among congressional critics of the Iraqi policy for a change in strategy, including a withdrawal of American forces.

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari warned earlier this week of civil war and the government's collapse if the Americans leave. But al-Maliki told reporters Saturday, "We say in full confidence that we are able, God willing, to take the responsibility completely in running the security file if the international forces withdraw at any time they want."

But he added that Iraqi forces are "still in need of more weapons and rehabilitation" to be ready in the case of a withdrawal.

On Friday, the Pentagon conceded that the Iraqi army has become more reliant on the U.S. military. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Peter Pace, said the number of Iraqi batallions able to operate on their own without U.S. support has dropped in recent months from 10 to six, though he said the fall was in part due to attrition from stepped-up offensives.

Al-Maliki told a Baghdad press conference that his government needs "time and effort" to enact the political reforms that Washington seeks - "particularly since the political process is facing security, economic and services pressures, as well as regional and international interference."

"These difficulties can be read as a big success, not negative points, when they are viewed under the shadow of the big challenges," he said.

In the White House strategy, beefed-up American forces have been waging intensified security crackdowns in Baghdad and areas to the north and south for nearly a month. The goal is to bring quiet to the capital while al-Maliki gives Sunni Arabs a greater role in the goverment and political process, lessening support for the insurgency.

But the benchmarks have been blocked by divisions among Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish leaders. In August, the parliament is taking a one month vacation - a shorter break than the usual two months, but still enough to anger some in Congress who say lawmakers should push through the measures.

Al-Suneid, a Shiite lawmaker close to al-Maliki, bristled at the pressure. He called Thursday's report "objective," but added, "this bothers us a lot that the situation looks as if it is an experiment in an American laboratory (judging) whether we succeed or fail."

He also told The Associated Press that al-Maliki has problems with the top U.S. commander Gen. David Petraeus, who works along a "purely American vision."

He criticized U.S. overtures to Sunni groups in Anbar and Diyala, encouraging former insurgents to join the fight against al-Qaida in Iraq. "These are gangs of killers," he said.

"There are disagreements that the strategy that Petraeus is following might succeed in confronting al-Qaida in the early period but it will leave Iraq an armed nation, an armed society and militias," said al-Suneid.

He said that the U.S. authorities have embarrassed al-Maliki' government through acts such as constructing a wall around Baghdad's Sunni neighborhood of Azamiyah and repeated raids on suspected Shiite militiamen in the capital's eastern slum of Sadr City. He said the U.S. use of airstrikes to hit suspected insurgent positions also kills civilians.

"This embarrasses the government in front of its people," he said, calling the civilian deaths a "human rights violation."


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He said that the U.S. authorities have embarrassed al-Maliki' government through acts such as constructing a wall around Baghdad's Sunni neighborhood of Azamiyah and repeated raids on suspected Shiite militiamen in the capital's eastern slum of Sadr City. He said the U.S. use of airstrikes to hit suspected insurgent positions also kills civilians.

"This embarrasses the government in front of its people," he said, calling the civilian deaths a "human rights violation."

1 posted on 07/14/2007 9:38:57 AM PDT by Dubya
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To: Dubya
Country can manage MUCH without U.S. Maliki.

All fixed.

2 posted on 07/14/2007 9:41:33 AM PDT by Allegra (Carbon offsets for sale. Inquire within.)
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To: Dubya
Earth to Maliki, earth to Maliki, you would get pummeled by Al-Qaeda in a NY minute.
3 posted on 07/14/2007 9:44:54 AM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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To: Dubya
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Saturday that the Iraqi army and police are capable of keeping security in the country when American troops leave "any time they want,"

Ok sounds good to me. I say we take him up on this, provided he gets the measure through the Iraq parliament. We are there at Iraq's government's request at present so if he truly speaks for Iraq's government it should be no problem for him to get parliament to formally withdraw the request.

4 posted on 07/14/2007 9:51:08 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dubya

This is not a good position for him to take, but then this source is AP so I don’t know if he actually said any such thing. I’ll wait until there’s some real confirmation before passing judgement.


5 posted on 07/14/2007 9:54:39 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

Yeah its AP this could easily be a totally fabricated story. Most likely he said something like Iraq can manage without the US as long as you take me on the last boat with the soldiers.


6 posted on 07/14/2007 9:59:13 AM PDT by federal
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To: Cementjungle

well unfortunately this puts GWb and the US into a corner, GWB promised that we would stay only as long as the Iraqis wanted us, now they don’t. This does give Republicans however the chance to take the upper hand in this and to say we did it on the Iraqis timeline and not an artificial one set out by the Democrats.


7 posted on 07/14/2007 10:01:15 AM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Dubya
The Parliament had a vote of no confidence on Maliki scheduled for tomorrow.

I heard this last week and haven't heard any more about it since, so I don't know if it's still on.

8 posted on 07/14/2007 10:01:27 AM PDT by Allegra (Carbon offsets for sale. Inquire within.)
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To: aft_lizard
now they don’t

Not so. One politician said they could manage while knowing full well American military forces would be in the country and the region for a long time to come.

9 posted on 07/14/2007 10:03:39 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Dubya
He said that the U.S. authorities have embarrassed al-Maliki' government through acts such as constructing a wall around Baghdad's Sunni neighborhood of Azamiyah and repeated raids on suspected Shiite militiamen in the capital's eastern slum of Sadr City. He said the U.S. use of airstrikes to hit suspected insurgent positions also kills civilians.

He doesn't care about the civilians. He cares about his Iran-backed Mahdi Army buddies.

He has a hissy-fit every time our troops (justifiably) go into that cesspool called Sadr City and cleans out some of the trash.

By the way, there are flares up over Sadr City right now.

10 posted on 07/14/2007 10:04:53 AM PDT by Allegra (Carbon offsets for sale. Inquire within.)
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Pace Vows U.S. Will Track Down Those Responsible for Attacks on Troops

What does this attack reveal about the reliability of the Iraqi security forces, a reporter asked Gates.

“I think we've been pretty straightforward in saying all along that the Iraqi police were a challenge, that we were reasonably content with the progress of the Iraqi army and their reliability, but that the sectarian nature of some of the Iraqi police and especially some of the senior officers was a concern,” Gates replied.

“A number of Iraqi senior police officials have been removed because they were regarded as sectarian, and they've been removed by the Iraqi government,” he said. “So it is a challenge, and I don't think anybody's ever made any bones about the fact that the training and the capability and the reliability of the Iraqi police was very uneven and in some areas a real concern.”

A reporter then asked Pace: “How does an American soldier or a Marine fight alongside these forces when they don't know whether they're friendly or they're the enemy from one minute to the next?”

When the Iraqi police with the lieutenant began firing on the American troops, he said, “that turned those individuals into enemy and legitimate folks for our troops to take on in combat.”

11 posted on 07/14/2007 10:04:57 AM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Allegra

So, would it be like 2/3 of the 290 or so members would have vote on the no confidence?


12 posted on 07/14/2007 10:05:08 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Allegra
By the way, there are flares up over Sadr City right now.

That's one rats nest that really, really needs a good hard cleaning.

L

13 posted on 07/14/2007 10:08:57 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: Dubya

Is there a website that I can go to find out what the 18 benchmarks are? I read about “the benchmarks” everywhere. Where’s the list?


14 posted on 07/14/2007 10:11:52 AM PDT by Molly K.
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To: Dubya

I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.


15 posted on 07/14/2007 10:12:12 AM PDT by pacelvi
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To: Dubya

He’s going to get his wish. America’s patience with the Iraqis is not infinite. At some point, we no longer have any responsibilities to them. I think we’ve reached that point.


16 posted on 07/14/2007 10:15:12 AM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: pacelvi

Great idea.


17 posted on 07/14/2007 10:15:33 AM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya

All you gotta do is ask us to leave....


18 posted on 07/14/2007 10:18:00 AM PDT by stylin19a (Since bad golf shots come in groups of 3, a 4th bad shot is the start of the next group of 3)
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To: Molly K.
Iraq: List of 18 benchmarks and Bush's assessment
19 posted on 07/14/2007 10:18:18 AM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dr. Frank fan
We are there at Iraq's government's request at present so if he truly speaks for Iraq's government it should be no problem for him to get parliament to formally withdraw the request.
I agree with this. As much as I support the war and the surge, if they truly ask us to leave, we should leave... while keeping a base in the Kurdish area, of course.
20 posted on 07/14/2007 10:18:59 AM PDT by samtheman
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