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Tim Kaine's Legacy: Abuser fees for Virginians
The Ward View ^ | July 14, 2007 | Ward Smythe

Posted on 07/14/2007 5:22:50 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands

As of this post, the Petition to Repeal the VA "Civil Remedial Fees" for Traffic Offenses has over 66,000 signatures.

It seems that something has finally gotten the attention from the citizens of the Commonwealth. Much has been said about the abuser fees and who we should blame in all of this.

What is most odious bout all of this is that the fines apply only to Virginians. And according to The Mason Conservative and others, we have only Governor Gridlock to thank for that.

The Mason Conservative: How Tim Kaine Screwed Virginia

I went to make darken "and persons operating motor vehicles with a license issued by a juristiction outside Virginia." But lo and behold, it VANISHED. Remember, Virginia governors have a line-item veto, so Gov. Gridlock removed all references to out of state drivers with regard to abuser fees when they were included in the Republican House version.

See also:

Virginia Oddsmaker: Kaine Has Some Splainin’ To Do

You’re reading this right… GOVERNOR TIMOTHY KAINE DELETED THE SECTION IMPOSING FEES ON OUT OF STATE DRIVERS?!?!?!?!

Bearing Drift: Kaine reaffirms his support for “abuser fees”

Just a reminder for Democrats who want to criticize “abuser fees,” it would be nice if they criticize the guy who’s been pushing for them since he took the oath of office.


TOPICS: Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: abuserfees; kaine; timkaine; transportation; virginia
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To: Natchez Hawk

Feel free to drive your opinion back on down to Mississippi.


21 posted on 07/14/2007 9:13:44 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I drink coffee for your protection.)
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To: Corin Stormhands; Natchez Hawk

Virginia Again Wins Forbes.com Ranking as Best State for Business
July 11, 2007

Forbes.com has again named Virginia the best state for business. The second annual Top States for Business survey examined U.S. states in six categories: business and living costs; job and income growth; business climate; educational attainment; venture capital investment; and quality of life. Virginia finished in the top 10 in four of the categories. Utah, North Carolina, Texas and Washington round out the top five states.


22 posted on 07/14/2007 9:22:48 AM PDT by freespirited (Mr. President, PUT UP THE WALL.)
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To: freespirited

That’s all true—the people of Virginia have a fine entrepenurial spirit and the technology sector in northern Va. is supplanting Silly Con’s Valley—I don’t see how the state government deserves credit for this, nor do I see how sacrificing personal liberty for a great business environment is a good tradeoff (I’ll spare you the over-the-top historical analogies of societies which have made that choice before).

Oh, and all that fantabulous growth in N. Va. none of that would be associated with the proximity of the Capitol of the free world would it? ;<)


23 posted on 07/14/2007 10:08:47 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (You take that diaper off your head! You put that back on Senator Vitter!)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Here’s the vote if you care to ping the list again so they can see how their critters voted. There were several votes, the last on April 4, after the Gov made some recommended changes.

HB 3202 Transportation funding; authority to certain localities to impose additional fees therefor, report.

floor: 04/04/07 Senate: Senate concurred in Governor’s recommendation (29-Y 10-N)


YEAS—Bell, Blevins, Colgan, Deeds, Devolites Davis, Edwards, Herring, Houck, Howell, Lambert, Marsh, McDougle, Miller, Norment, O’Brien, Potts, Puckett, Puller, Quayle, Rerras, Reynolds, Ruff, Stolle, Stosch, Ticer, Wagner, Wampler, Whipple, Williams—29.

NAYS—Cuccinelli, Hanger, Hawkins, Locke, Lucas, Martin, Newman, Obenshain, Saslaw, Watkins—10.

RULE 36—0.

NOT VOTING—Chichester—1.


HB 3202 Transportation funding; authority to certain localities to impose additional fees therefor, report.

floor: 04/04/07 House: VOTE: ADOPTION (85-Y 15-N)


YEAS—Albo, Alexander, Amundson, Armstrong, Athey, BaCote, Barlow, Bell, Bowling, Brink, Bulova, Callahan, Caputo, Carrico, Cosgrove, Cox, Crockett-Stark, Dance, Dudley, Ebbin, Eisenberg, Englin, Fralin, Griffith, Hall, Hamilton, Hargrove, Hogan, Howell, A.T., Hugo, Hull, Hurt, Iaquinto, Ingram, Janis, Jones, S.C., Kilgore, Landes, Lewis, Lingamfelter, Lohr, Marsden, Marshall, D.W., May, McClellan, McEachin, McQuigg, Miller, J.H., Miller, P.J., Moran, Morgan, Nixon, Nutter, O’Bannon, Oder, Orrock, Peace, Phillips, Plum, Poisson, Purkey, Putney, Rust, Saxman, Scott, E.T., Scott, J.M., Shannon, Sherwood, Shuler, Sickles, Suit, Tata, Toscano, Tyler, Valentine, Waddell, Ward, Wardrup, Ware, O., Ware, R.L., Watts, Welch, Wittman, Wright, Mr. Speaker—85.

NAYS—Abbitt, Byron, Cline, Cole, Frederick, Gear, Gilbert, Joannou, Johnson, Jones, D.C., Marshall, R.G., Melvin, Rapp, Reid, Spruill—15.

ABSTENTIONS—0.

NOT VOTING—0.


24 posted on 07/14/2007 12:52:50 PM PDT by freespirited (Mr. President, PUT UP THE WALL.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

If I were a drunken scofflaw I would get with my illegal neighbors and find out how to get an out of state drivers license with no paperwork. My Spanish should be good enough to get away with it. Then I wouldn’t have to worry about the new “fees”.


25 posted on 07/14/2007 2:03:46 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: R. Scott; Corin Stormhands
I hear ya! I just keep thinking about all the trouble I went through to get a VA driver's license 4 years ago. I should have kept my Delaware one.
26 posted on 07/14/2007 6:08:01 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Gabz

Yep - and if stopped, just say you’re a tourist or just visiting.


27 posted on 07/15/2007 4:38:42 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: R. Scott

That would have been easy if I had kept the DE license, the MD/DE state line is just a bit over an hour from here. But alas, I did the right thing and changed my license as soon as I could after we moved.


28 posted on 07/15/2007 5:01:16 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Gabz

That’ll teach you to be a law abiding citizen!


29 posted on 07/15/2007 3:29:14 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: R. Scott

LOL!!!!

I should have done what I did when I moved from NY to DE, not bother with it until my NY license expired.


30 posted on 07/15/2007 4:25:18 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Corin Stormhands; Gabz; R. Scott

Didn’t Governor Gridlock say on WRVA’s “Ask the Governor” that the out of state exemption was because of the general assembly? Sheesh - my memory is not so good. But I could swear I heard him lay that on the GA. So, not only is he responsible for this abomination of a law, he’s blaming the other guys. Typical Dem.


31 posted on 07/16/2007 6:28:24 AM PDT by iceskater
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To: iceskater

Yep.


32 posted on 07/17/2007 3:05:38 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: freespirited
Forbes.com has again named Virginia the best state for business.

Kaine will change that. "Abuser fees" are only the beginning.

33 posted on 07/17/2007 3:24:26 AM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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