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Three Removed From Senate During Hindu Prayer
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Posted on 07/12/2007 7:08:19 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver
Praying in the Senate is stupid enough but, are there any Hindu Senators? 

What's the point?

21 posted on 07/12/2007 7:34:27 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: gdani

“You obviously aren’t familiar with the War on Christmas!”

Ooops! Forgot about that. I hear the war goes poorly and Christmas may have to redeploy to the 29th of December.


22 posted on 07/12/2007 7:34:39 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (The booze made me do it!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Me thinks we need to worry about any group who infiltrates our hallowed Judeo/Christian values. Right away we can see that their Hindu prayer is to a dead god and prays for a peace from human hands. It’s human hands that has gotten us (humans) in the terrible places we now find ourselves. We can only pray to God that He will change man’s heart and mind about trying to usurp His power for theirs. Man does not have a clue what to do. Not a clue.
23 posted on 07/12/2007 7:48:00 AM PDT by Frwy (Proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy.)
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To: PrepareToLeave
Can't have it both way, either you are for the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and His son Jesus Christ, or you are against him. As a nation, we must choose with whom our full allegiance lies.

We have this thing called the "non-establishment" clause in the first amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

If you don't like it, you can try to amend the constitution.

24 posted on 07/12/2007 7:48:10 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: PrepareToLeave
This isn’t about the members of the Senate having another God, it is about the Senate allowing someone to freely express their freedom of religion as expressed in the Constitution. The Constitution doesn’t say only the Christian religion is allowed to be represented, it says the opposite, that government cannot restrict the expression of religion.

We can look at this as a citizen representative of our country being allowed to express their freedom that is granted to them by the Constitution.

...and I don’t want to hear the argument, well why not wicca or other fringe religions. The fact is that the Hindu religion is a major religion and there are a sizable population of Hindi’s in the country and around the world.

25 posted on 07/12/2007 7:49:23 AM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: Frwy

So you’re saying the Christian thing to do is to disrupt the prayers of others?


26 posted on 07/12/2007 7:49:32 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: PrepareToLeave

And, you have an inside track on who God reveals Himself to ~ . Do you know about Shiva and Krishna? Betcha’ don’t.


27 posted on 07/12/2007 7:51:55 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

No. Man and his perverted ideas are our biggest worries. We must look to the Lord for our guidance as man has gotten us into all the troubles we face. We sure don’t need to be praying to some dead god. The One True God is the only One who can be trusted to guide us.


28 posted on 07/12/2007 7:54:19 AM PDT by Frwy (Proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy.)
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To: LiteKeeper
Not all Hindus believe in all of the so-called "Hindu gods". Some of them are quite monotheistic. In other cases what is meant as God simply has many names. In others the big difference between what they view as the God-head and our (Christian) own is that they add a female component to the picture.

Hinduism must be thought of more as a combination of free form do it yourself religiosity combined with an agreement to try to stay out of the other guy's theology ~ that way they can put up their family chapels in the same building where they can be safe from friend and foe.

It has been said that the number of religions in India is equal to the number of people.

29 posted on 07/12/2007 7:56:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PrepareToLeave

Better said than I did but I meant the same thing. Thanks for a voice of sanity.


30 posted on 07/12/2007 7:56:22 AM PDT by Frwy (Proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy.)
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To: LiteKeeper
This is often misunderstood part of the Hindu religion. They believe in one universal spirit that manifests itself in everything and in many forms. Be it Krishna, Shiva, Ganesh, whatever, they are all expressions of different attributes of that spirit.
31 posted on 07/12/2007 7:56:46 AM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: Frwy
Did that man's "god" die? Or are you referring to Jesus, who rose from the dead?

Your language is too diffuse to pin this one day.

32 posted on 07/12/2007 7:58:32 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Xenalyte

(the third member of the trio is probably "in costume")

-Eric

33 posted on 07/12/2007 8:01:03 AM PDT by E Rocc (Resident Smartass and Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: Frwy; lesser_satan

Just like most FReepers would stand and defend the honor on their loved one who was unfairly treated, there are also those who will defend the honor of the one true God. To consistently turn one’s back on the fact that it is HE who holds the future on this country in His hands, and that it is HE that has given freely His grace and provision to American, He alone deserves the respect and dedication of our nation’s leaders. We are a melting pot, yes, but again, as a nation, we must stand as a Christian country or surely God will withdraw his grace. He is a jealous God as the Bible says, and He is a fearsome power.


34 posted on 07/12/2007 8:01:10 AM PDT by PrepareToLeave (Fight on Christian soldiers!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Weren’t those Hindus who committed the first bioterror attack in US - Oregon in the 1980s? I know they were from India and over 600 people were stricken during the trial run, their main plan being to later poison the water supply.


35 posted on 07/12/2007 8:01:42 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: muawiyah

No, I don’t know about them. Have you ever had Jesus reveal himself to you? We are all seekers of the truth, call upon the name of Jesus and see what happens.


36 posted on 07/12/2007 8:06:16 AM PDT by PrepareToLeave (Fight on Christian soldiers!)
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To: PrepareToLeave
If we begin to restrict the right of one to freely express their religion, as granted in the Constitution, then what gives us the right to freely express our religion? What will happen if we start saying that XX can’t express their religion because it isn’t the ‘one true God’, but then we get to the point where Baptists tell Catholics (or vice versa) that they can’t express their religion because they aren’t praying to the one true God... what if the Methodists tell the Jews they aren’t free to express their religion.. Freedom for one means freedom for all. The only restriction on freedom is that your freedom cannot interfere with the freedom of others.

Again, this isn’t about the Senate promoting or praying themselves to another God, this is about a citizen expressing their religious freedom in one place where they should be free to, to a body that represents the freedom of the people.

37 posted on 07/12/2007 8:06:17 AM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: PrepareToLeave
Just like most FReepers would stand and defend the honor on their loved one who was unfairly treated, there are also those who will defend the honor of the one true God. To consistently turn one’s back on the fact that it is HE who holds the future on this country in His hands, and that it is HE that has given freely His grace and provision to American, He alone deserves the respect and dedication of our nation’s leaders. We are a melting pot, yes, but again, as a nation, we must stand as a Christian country or surely God will withdraw his grace. He is a jealous God as the Bible says, and He is a fearsome power.
When the Constitution was written, there was no mention of God, Jesus, the Bible or Christianity, save the ambigious matter of the date at the end. The idea of adding some such reference was considered, and was rejected rather resoundingly. We know this from the words of Luther Martin, a convention delegate who strongly advocated adding said reference.

Since then, America has become the greatest and most powerful nation the world has ever seen, and every other government in existance at the time has changed rather dramatically.

I would say that the objective evidence suggests that if one assumes that some deity who we can call God is involved in the state of our world, said Deity had no objection to said ommission.

-Eric

38 posted on 07/12/2007 8:07:57 AM PDT by E Rocc (Resident Smartass and Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: Dante3
No, those were Rajneeshees who were about as much Hindu as David Koresh was Christian.. they were a weird fringe cult..
39 posted on 07/12/2007 8:08:27 AM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: Xenalyte

Wow it’s really christian to call them (that). If these people were just praying (in the gallery) it’s one thing, if they were disruptive it’s another. I don’t agree with the Hindu praying in the Senate, but it isn’t unconstiutional (unless they forced Senators to be there), vice versa when Christians pray to the real God, they aren’t wrong morally, nor constitutionally unless they forced non-believers to be there!

That said these protesters aren’t(dip-sh*t); I thought that is language usually reserved for liberals..


40 posted on 07/12/2007 8:08:46 AM PDT by JSDude1 (Republicans if the don't beware ARE the new WHIGS! (all empty hairpieces..) :).)
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