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To: liberallarry; rock58seg
Yes, but I observe that the temperature rises when a forest is replaced by a parking lot...and that we're pouring tons of garbage into the atmosphere every hour. It would be miraculous if that turned out to be good for us, as if eating raw sewage turned out to be a cure for cancer.

Human environment in the United States is cleaner and safer now that it has been in over a hundred years. The air is cleaner. The water is cleaner. There are more forested areas. And this all has been a trend since before there was anything named OSHA or the EPA. The only thing that has happened since then has been a decrease in the rate of improvement due to excessive government interference.
304 posted on 07/11/2007 9:05:16 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan; liberallarry
And what exactly did you observe in that situation? Was it an increase in the ambient air temp., or the surface temp. of the pavement?

And when, where, and how did you measure the temp. in the forest?
Again, was it the ambient air temp.?
Temp of the forest floor?
Temp. of the air in the shade of the tree canopy?

Or perhaps the air temp. above the forest canopy?
Or did you measure all of the above and derive an average?
How did you weight the data?
What were the humidity levels in the various areas?
How broad was the area measured?

You don't know, do you? Because it was a totally subjective and vague observation. You can not quantify your "feeling?

And this is at the root of the conflict. The existing data sets are so general that the fudge factor, conscious or unconscious. So much of the presented man-made argument is based on meta-studies, that is study of studies.

Even Lockwood, with all of his credentials, stated in 1999, IIRC, that his conclusions were based on meta-studies and computer models. Yet not one software analysis can be proved to use past data and predict temp. for a past point in time for which we have "average temps. Not one.

Consider that the amount of solar radiation provides roughly 1200 to 1300 watts per sq. meter per second.

What man-made activity even approaches a fraction of that number globally?

Now consider what a 5% fluctuation in solar energy means over the course of a single day on your patch of pavement.

The cavalier attitude that dismisses the variation of solar energy ought to tell you that something other than objective science is at work here.

307 posted on 07/12/2007 3:43:27 AM PDT by Covenantor (America's Fifth column is in the White House and Capitol)
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