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To: expat_panama
my decades of work with a US federal meteorology section aren't the problem

Apparently you are a professional. Most posters aren't.

This article says that the cause of recent global temperature increases is manmade CO2 and not fluctuations in solar activity

The article says that...but the research says only that solar activity is a very, very unlikely cause of global warming during the last 20 years.

The journalists did not shown their numbers.

They're journalists are writing for the general public, not scientists.

We presented measurements refuting the idea.

Yes, well...I'm sorry to say this but I question your credentials. You should be presenting your evidence at a scientific conference if you want to test it's validity. Did you look at the references in the abstract? Do you really believe that the authors weren't aware of your data and arguments?

190 posted on 07/11/2007 6:33:31 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry

One question for you Larry

Has the earth gone through warming and cooling cycles in the past?

Yes or No?


194 posted on 07/11/2007 6:37:47 AM PDT by listenhillary (Freeze federal spending RIGHT NOW! Maybe in 25 years, we can be out of debt.)
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To: liberallarry
I question your credentials. You should be presenting your evidence at...

Whoa, let's get clear on what's going on here.  If we were working with a scientific problem, then who ever made the assertion would have to back it up with supporting observations.  The assertion here is that manmade CO2 is heating the earth.  No data were offered.  The issue should have died there because all that matters here is whether the article's thesis is based on observation.   My credentials are not relevant, neither are the numbers I offered showing the correlations between temps and solar activity being higher than with CO2.   The burden of proof falls on the claimant.  

The bottom line here is that this issue is not based in science, it's a political issue.   We're arguing about it on this political forum because the loony liberal tax raisers are using this global warming hoax to raise taxes.   You haven't convinced me to vote for higher taxes.

263 posted on 07/11/2007 9:51:44 AM PDT by expat_panama
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