FR is not a propanganda site to create "files" making Fred's voting record look flawless so we can elect him President, if you want one then start your own site called FredRepublic.com. Fred is not perfect and it is an established fact he cast poor votes on ILLEGAL (let me repeat that word again: ILLEGAL immigration), and you can whine all you want about how unfair it is for other people to discuss it and how you want files listing the other times Fred voted correctly on immigration. Fred has a "C" record, if you want to list the votes where he was right on immigration, you are free to do so.
Now, here's the problem. You keep insisting NumbersUSA is giving Fred bad scores simply because he supported more LEGAL immigration. That's interesting, Duncan Hunter scored an A+ from NumbersUSA. Since they give bad grades for all LEGAL immigration votes, I guess Duncan must be for sealing the border perputally and never allowing another foriegner to LAWFULLY enter this country, right? Get a life. NumbersUSA penalized Fred for bad votes on ILLEGAL immigration, and you if you don't like it that's too bad. Here are those bills:
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S.1664
S.1664 protected businesses from having to pay higher fines when they are caught hiring ILLEGAL aliens. Under the idea that current fines were not enough of a deterrent against businesses cutting their labor costs by hiring ILLEGAL aliens, the Senate immigration subcommittee approved higher fines. Various study commissions have found that the willingness of U.S. businesses to hire ILLEGAL aliens is the No. 1 incentive for foreign workers to become ILLEGAL aliens here. But Sen. Fred Thompson voted with a 10-8 majority in the Judiciary Committee to remove the higher fines from the 1996 legislation against ILLEGAL immigration.
So tell us, shy do you agree that Fred's vote on the Judiciary Committee was correct? Please feel free to let us know why employers should have to pay lower fines when they are caught employing criminal aliens who are UNLAWFULLY in the U.S. ?
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Abraham Amendment to stop voluntary verification system
The program established by S. 1664 were intended to assist employers in determining whether the person they hired was UNLAWFULLY in the United States with NO LEGAL RIGHT to work in this country. Such verification is considered by many experts to be an essential tool for withdrawing the job magnet from ILLEGAL aliens. The verification system established by S.1664 did NOT involve an ID card. Rather it provided that when new workers wrote down their Social Security number on an application, employers could phone into a national verification system to help assure that the number was a real number and belonged to the person giving it. In earlier smaller pilot programs, businesses had hailed the verification system for making it easier for them to avoid hiring ILLEGAL aliens. Sen. Thompson voted IN FAVOR of the Abraham Amendment to S.1664. Fred Thompon was part of a coalition of pro-business conservatives and liberal civil libertarians who tried to use the amendment to kill the establishment of voluntary pilot programs in high-immigration states. Sen. Fred Thompson was unsuccessful in stopping the voluntary verification system.
So tell us, if Fred's vote was correct, why was it a good idea to prevent this, successfully-tested program that would allow employers to crack down on ILLEGAL aliens that slipped through their hiring system?
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Mack Amendment to S. 1156
Sen. Thompson voted to grant legal status to Nicaraguans and Cubans who had lived in the United States ILLEGALLY since 1995, along with their spouses and minor unmarried children. The overall ten year impact of this legislation will be the addition of some 967,000 people to U.S. population. There was no separate vote on the AMNESTY, as it was inlcuded in the DC Appropriations bill. The only opportunity Senators had to vote in favor of or against the AMNESTY was the Mack Amendment to S.1156.
Michelle Malkin listed the fact that there have been seven "mini-amnesties" since the 1986 act. The Niacarianian amnesty is one such vote. I know you'd really wish you could pretend those Nicaraguans "refugees" had entered the country through the proper legal channels and Fred's vote was to speed up permanately residency for those poor widdle refugees paticenly awaiting their green cards from the government, but the fact is they BROKE THE LAW to enter this country and Fred supporting giving AMNESTY to ILLEAGAL aliens who had NO RIGHT to be here. There are many, many provisions for people to seek sancuriary in America illegal. If these people were "refugees", they could have gotten one easily, but they choose to sneak into this country ILLEGALLY.
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What part of the word ILLEGAL don't you understand? I know you really WISH Fred's votes were to remove fines for LEGAL aliens and allow more job access for LEGAL immigrants, but the bad votes Fred cast were clearly to reward ILLEGAL aliens. You cry all you want that NumbersUSA is against Fred for hiring legals, that won't make it true.
Because you are blatantly misrepresenting Fred's votes. For example, as I have said over and over, 1664, the only part Fred voted on was a 'table' motion to move the bill to vote, this was not voting for the bill itself. (at that, the bill never made it to the Senate for vote.)
I've also shown you that Fred voted Nay on 1156 but you are taking another procedural vote and misrepresenting that as a 'yea' vote on the bill. This is beyond misunderstanding the votes, this is blatant misrepresenting and distorting the record.