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Conservatives, Beware of Fred Thompson
ConservativeHQ ^ | 7-2007 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 07/10/2007 9:06:01 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

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To: PlainOleAmerican
Where’s that evidence that Thompson wants the states to continue killing innocent babies?

I posted it as soon as the subject came up. It was in the form of a transript. I can't help it if you ignore the facts.

901 posted on 07/10/2007 9:22:07 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Reagan Platform: Unborn babies are PERSONS, and therefore are protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: G8 Diplomat

>>He says he thought Roe v. Wade was a bad decision, but also says he’s a pro-choice defender in a pro-life party.<<

I can’t find any evidence that Thompson himself said that, but anti-Fred people keep repeating it.

I am keeping an open mind about Thompson until he makes his positions clearer on many issues.


902 posted on 07/10/2007 9:23:21 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: mmichaels1970

Deaver supporting Thompson is certainly no surprise. While I always give him points for being so faithful to Reagan for so many years, I would hardly call him a conservative stalwart. Would you?


903 posted on 07/10/2007 9:28:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Reagan Platform: Unborn babies are PERSONS, and therefore are protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: Carry_Okie
Your tactics are juvenile and obvious. You are giving Hunter a bad name with these tactics, not that you are smart enough to understand that, no matter how many times people point it out.

Your guy keeps dropping in the polls the more you do this, or haven't you noticed? It takes no great effort to either be right of Bush or prove it.

Bush has appeased the left on everything from social spending to his PC run war. Thompson has both a history and a voting record of not appeasing anyone, especially the left and nobody in America is less concerned with political correctness than Thompson.

It doesn’t take a genius to see that every candidate except Rudy McRomney is right of Bush. But there are those who refuse to admit it. As I'm sure you know, Thompson has had several careers in the private sector. He has spent more time and made more money as a lawyer and actor than he ever made as a lobbyist. But you choose to mislead readers by pretending that his only career is lobby work. This is exactly the halfbaked half truths told by Hunter supporters that give Hunter a black eye. You couldn't do a better job of making Hunter look bad if you were Howard Dean.

904 posted on 07/10/2007 9:32:10 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: EternalVigilance

But I’m not a liar!


905 posted on 07/10/2007 9:33:08 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
But I’m not a liar!

Sure you are. You said ALL of Fred's advisors were Reagan folks. That's already been demonstrated to be untrue.

906 posted on 07/10/2007 9:34:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Reagan Platform: Unborn babies are PERSONS, and therefore are protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: EternalVigilance

No, all of his primary advisors are, by design. His major financial supporters are Reagan folks too, in case you care to do some real homework.


907 posted on 07/10/2007 9:35:21 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Dick Bachert

This is yet another man (Vagarie or whatever) who believes his was is the only way and if you don’t do everything as he says it, then you’re not a conservative. We’ll I am a conservative and I believe that we have to move society to the right in increments - everyone here seems to think we can just win control of everything and in one fail swoop change everything back to the way we want it.

Sounds good in theory, but impossible to affect through legislation and even if you get the legislation, we have radical communities and cities (and states) who refuse to live by the Law of the Land (e.g. Sanctuary Cities). We need a leader who can affect change in the hearts and minds of the people - who will cause people to rise up as leaders in their own community to create the society we want.

While Fred Thompson may not be the perfect conservative, he is a good man who has the potential to be a “grandfather” figure to an entire generation of upcoming leaders. I was raised with Reagan in office and his demeanor and language effected me in subconscious ways that have instilled conservative values in me. I want my children to have a president who, while perhaps not the beacon of conservative thought, will lead the way be telling the people what he thinks is right and wrong and following through on that.

George Bush may not be perfect, but I have no problem having my children listening to what he says or admiring his life - studying his life. Same goes for Ronaldus Magnus and GHW. I believe the same would be said of Fred Thompson. He will be a strong voice for our general way of life, our belief in the basic tenets of humanity and the conservative construct. I will continue to learn more about him, but right now, for m money, he is the man I want in that office when GWB departs.

Maybe that’s image over substance, but for too long conservatives have let the “image” world of Hollywood craft popular culture while the conservative “image” have been left to the left to define. LEt’s let FDT be the image of conservative.

P.S. Wouldn’t mind seeing Rudy as VP and placed in charge of directing/overseeing the war on terror. Perhaps “Minister of Terrorist Justice”, not in charge of nominating Justices or Vetoing legislation.


908 posted on 07/10/2007 9:36:08 PM PDT by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope when Liberals pull us off the cliff?)
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To: Gabz
Fred Thompson wa a lawyer and a lobbyist BEFORE he became a Senator, thus in the private sector.

My error as to the date, but it's still not private industry in my book. Lobbyists are all about influencing government to buy advantage in the marketplace, not focusing on building better mousetraps. They're one step above an NGO lawyer.

Each and everyone of us who has ever called or written any of our elected officials, or even contacted bureaucrats on an issue are acting as lobbyists, unpaid yes, but it is still lobbying.

That's getting way too fast and loose with a definition. "Lobbyist" denotes a person who represents an interest that has purchased sufficient influence to have access to a legislator in the lobby of legislative chambers, a level of access to which an average citizen does not even pretend. Hence the title, and the aptness of the mis-approbation.

909 posted on 07/10/2007 9:36:53 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: flat

You see, we don’t have TIME to fuss around trying to discover what all these other guys believe, and try to guess how they will govern, and keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best, like we’ve done for the last 6 years. Duncan Hunter has ALWAYS believed what he believes now, and I feel confident that what he believes today, he will act on when he is President. I think we can all sleep better the day he is inaugurated!!


910 posted on 07/10/2007 9:38:01 PM PDT by buckeye49
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To: PlainOleAmerican
...Thompson’s primary advisors are all old Reagan folks. Reagan was no more conservative than Thompson, not as conservative on a few social issues.

You need to read more and show your ass less.

822 posted on 07/10/2007 10:51:03 PM EDT by PlainOleAmerican

EternalVigilance Posted:

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070623/NEWS0206/706230349/1016/NEWS02

:-)


911 posted on 07/10/2007 9:38:41 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Reagan Man

Everything I stated was not only true, but confirmed by YOU.

Reagan would be ashamed to have such an idiot using his name...

I’m still here, not hiding, just fed up with your persistant ignorance.


912 posted on 07/10/2007 9:39:19 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: EternalVigilance
I would hardly call him a conservative stalwart. Would you?

Oh no you don't. I'm not falling into your trap :). I'm sure I don't know 10% of what you know about Michael Deaver. My point is only that he was part of Reagan's "circle".
913 posted on 07/10/2007 9:40:57 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: EternalVigilance

And now I and several others have named them, connected them to Reagan, and proved that you have NO interest in truth at all.

I’m wasting no more time on a LIAR!


914 posted on 07/10/2007 9:41:15 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: mhking

Thanks for the ping!


915 posted on 07/10/2007 9:41:52 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Little Ray

“That said, he ain’t Rudy Guiliani or John McInsane, and I’m willing to support him in the General. (I’ll be votin’ for Duncan Hunter in the Primary, most likely.)”

My thoughts exactly. I’m not even gonna read the other 900 posts now. ‘nough said.


916 posted on 07/10/2007 9:43:49 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: PlainOleAmerican; Reagan Man

You’re in way over your head, whoever you are.

Reagan Man is a longtime respected FReeper.


917 posted on 07/10/2007 9:44:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Reagan Platform: Unborn babies are PERSONS, and therefore are protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: EternalVigilance

A transcript that made no such statement...

Where’s the transcript that makes the statement that Fred wants the states to continue killing innocent babies?


918 posted on 07/10/2007 9:45:19 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: mmichaels1970

That he was. And there are few who have been closer to Nancy Reagan in the years since the Reagan administration.


919 posted on 07/10/2007 9:45:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Reagan Platform: Unborn babies are PERSONS, and therefore are protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

He thinks it’s up to the States to decide. Do you think California or Massachusetts or Illinois are going to stop killing babies without the Fourteenth Amendment being enforced?


920 posted on 07/10/2007 9:46:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Reagan Platform: Unborn babies are PERSONS, and therefore are protected by the 14th Amendment)
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