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To: NewJerseyJoe

I guess I don’t see the problem with “new translations” if by that term you mean the vernacular of a certain time and place. We translate scripture into new languages all the time as missionaries continue to reach new societies with the Gospel of Christ. I don’t think they should be trying to teach those people Latin first before they can be exposed to the Word of God.
Also, keep in mind that Latin scripture was itself a “new translation” at one time, since the original Scriptures were written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek.

>God is the only One Who “needs to understand”.
I whole-heartedly disagree with this point. Paul said he would pray with understanding. It seems to me that worship without understanding is simply ritual and noise.

>I have no problems following my Latin-English missal...
Seems to me that you’re using one of those “new translations” (English) in order to be told what the Latin means in your missal. So what’s the difference between that and just using the English translation without the Latin? It sounds like you put more importance on the “dead” language than I do.
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree about this. I hope I have not offended in any way. I don’t understand your view...but that doesn’t necessarily make you wrong.
God bless.


15 posted on 07/10/2007 5:40:09 AM PDT by RenegadeNC
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To: RenegadeNC
Don't have time to address all of this now, but one thing can't wait....

>God is the only One Who “needs to understand”.
I whole-heartedly disagree with this point

Unequivocally incorrect:

[emphasis added in places]

263. Q. What is the Mass?
A. The Mass is the unbloody sacrifice of the body and blood of Christ.

264. Q. What is a sacrifice?
A. A sacrifice is the offering of an object by a priest to God alone, and the consuming of it to acknowledge that He is the Creator and Lord of all things.

265. Q. Is the Mass the same sacrifice as that of the Cross?
A. The Mass is the same sacrifice as that of the Cross.

266. Q. How is the Mass the same sacrifice as that of the Cross?
A. The Mass is the same sacrifice as that of the Cross because the offering and the priest are the same--Christ our Blessed Lord; and the ends for which the sacrifice of the Mass is offered are the same as those of the sacrifice of the Cross.

267. Q. What were the ends for which the sacrifice of the Cross was offered?
A. The ends for which the sacrifice of the Cross was offered were: 1st, To honor and glorify God; 2d, To thank Him for all the graces bestowed on the whole world; 3d, To satisfy God's justice for the sins of men; 4th, To obtain all graces and blessings.

Nowhere in that teaching is anything resembling "The purpose of Mass is so that the people can understand." Time to review your catechism.
16 posted on 07/10/2007 5:59:25 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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