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Bush defiant despite Iraq pressure
Financial Times ^ | July 9 2007 18:41 | Last updated: July 9 2007 18:41 | Andrew Ward and Demetri Sevastopulo in Washington

Posted on 07/09/2007 2:02:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

George W. Bush is not ­contemplating a change of strategy in Iraq, in spite of intensifying bipartisan pressure on the president to start reducing US troop numbers in the country, the White House said on Monday.

The defiant message came amid signs of rapidly eroding support for the war within Mr Bush’s Republican party and a growing sense of inevitability in Washington that the US will soon be forced to seek an exit from Iraq.

Tony Snow, White House press secretary, said there was “no debate right now” within the administration about taking immediate steps to withdraw troops from the battlefield.

His comments came in response to a New York Times report that administration officials had started to consider whether Mr Bush should announce plans for US retreat from the most dangerous neighbourhoods of Baghdad and other cities.

The report said the internal debate was prompted by the growing Republican rebellion over the war, with several of the party’s senators having called for a change in strategy.

Mr Bush had hoped to maintain party unity until September, when General David Petraeus, the US commander in Iraq, is scheduled to deliver a progress report to Congress. But the flurry of Republican defections has raised doubts about how much longer the party can be relied upon to resist efforts by congressional Democrats to end the war.

Democrats plan to use a Senate debate over defence policy, which started on Monday, as a vehicle to launch a fresh wave of proposals for troop withdrawals and limits on war spending over the next few weeks.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqueda; bush; gwot; iran; iraq; resolve; staythecourse; term2
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1 posted on 07/09/2007 2:02:48 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bush defiant despite Iraq fake stories and a RINO stampede.


2 posted on 07/09/2007 2:07:00 PM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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To: All
Lots of threads on Iraq today:

BBC: US Iraq chief warns of long war ( General Petraeus -- 'Surge taking hold')

Iraqi FM: Turkey Massing 140,000 Troops ^

3 posted on 07/09/2007 2:07:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: tobyhill

It`s pretty easy to be defiant when you are right!


4 posted on 07/09/2007 2:08:06 PM PDT by bybybill (HUNT RINOS IN THE PRIMARIES, SKIN RATS IN THE FALL)
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To: tobyhill; bnelson44; SandRat; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; ...
Another thread...haven't read thru it yet:

U.S. ambassador warns against early Iraq exit

5 posted on 07/09/2007 2:11:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: tobyhill; Ernest_at_the_Beach; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000
Pete Domenici voted for Campaign Finance Reform. I called his office and unloaded. I was told, "I guess they didn't want that vote used against them."

Pete Domenici voted for shamnesty. No doubt he was shaken by Heather Wilson's narrow victory and his own reelection prospects next year--the Mexican invasion proceeds apace: and it's antiRepublican.

Pete Domenici publicly panics vis-a-vis Iraq--translation: I think this helps my reelection prospects--and national security and the fate of Western Civilization in the face of the islamojihadi onslaught be damned.

Richard "Dick" Lugar (Globalist Party representing the United Nations) pees his depends over Iraq.

Senators Bevis and Butthead join Harry Reid for the handwringing ceremony on the Capitol Steps.

Put some more cots in the Yuri I. Nosenko Suite for the duration.

6 posted on 07/09/2007 2:15:22 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
If being right means losing seats for the Republicans then so be it but to pander to those who are wrong to merely hold on to seats is pathetic. History will judge the Iraq war favorably unless the Rats and RINOs make this another Vietnam.
7 posted on 07/09/2007 2:26:37 PM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Bush Resolute Despite Surrender-to-Terrorism Pressure from both Political Parties”

There, fixed that headline


8 posted on 07/09/2007 2:40:02 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Our Congress Critters are cowards

They don’t have the balls to fight the terrorists


9 posted on 07/09/2007 2:48:52 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Mo1

So sad, so true. These weenies are more interested in their own self preservation, to hell with the country, the troops and the war on terror. They will surrender in order to keep a seat in the senate.

They are shameless individuals who do not deserve our respect, our support or our vote.


10 posted on 07/09/2007 2:54:25 PM PDT by Laverne
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To: Laverne
They are shameless individuals who do not deserve our respect, our support or our vote.

They don't have our respect .. take a look at their poll numbers

11 posted on 07/09/2007 3:00:03 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: tobyhill
Every member of FR (along with our GOP base) should be writing and calling their Representatives....Telling them to stand firm behind our warriors down range...and behind our CinC in this WOT/Iraq.

Will our base guard the flanks of our warriors down range with the same intensity they showed for the 30yr in the making problem of illegal immigration??

I certainly hope so.

12 posted on 07/09/2007 3:20:54 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix
I’ve been calling and I’ve had no loss for words with them. I’m really sick and tired of being told that I have to address them in a dignified way when they do nothing except crap on the same people that put them in office.
13 posted on 07/09/2007 3:26:58 PM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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To: tobyhill
Agree with the frustration - But try and stay civil (but blunt). Our GOP Representatives better stand firm behind our warriors down range. We are winning this WOT. On the whole Iraq is moving in the right direction of Phase III (Phase I & II having already been accomplished - Removing Saddam regime & establishing a new Gov't).

It will be a time of great pride or smack in the face to see if our base gives our warriors the same intensity (in demands on D.C. to stand firm) as they gave to the issue of immigration.

14 posted on 07/09/2007 3:30:18 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix
I’m trying to stay civil with these ancient RINOs but it is time they move aside and stop trying to hijack the Republican Party.
15 posted on 07/09/2007 3:36:24 PM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

No question,running AIN’T the answer.However how about a stategy beyond “staying the course”? Like admitting the real enemy here at this point is more Iran then Iraq.The truth is we’re fighting Iran a whole lot more then we’re fighting Iraq.Sooooooo,why not admit it and start an air war against Iran to let them know they can’t continue to fight us in Iraq without paying a price themselves ???


16 posted on 07/09/2007 3:43:13 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: PhilDragoo
I have sent email to Lugar and Domenici.

I told them that I was coming and hell was coming with me.

I had a lot of compassion to stop amnesty. Well, I got more compassion when it comes to supporting this mission and our Troops.

I told the traitors that I will be using this compassion to do what I can to get them removed. I grew up in Indiana. If I have to, I will quit a decent job and I will move back there and vote him out of office.

I am tired of the RINO, commie traitors. The surge is about two weeks with its full force and Lugar, Domenici, and other traitors are calling for pull out.

I call for every traitor out there to pull the head out of their @$$!!! Go ahead leave early and/or tell the enemy when you are leaving. That is a good idea. How about we leave when the Iraqi Government asks us too? Don’t like that? Wanna leave now? Go ahead and turn it over to the terrorist.

I want stupid people removed from power. I want politicians standing behind our Generals plans. I don’t want Generals standing behind our politicians plans.

Lugar and Domenici need to understand that we must show resolve to our enemy. Terrorist are telling people in Iraq not to work with the Americans or they will kill their family. They are telling the Iraqi people that we won’t be there forever. We must show resolve so the people can begin to trust their new government and the US over the terrorist. If you do not show resolve you are part of the problem and you are a National Security risk.

We need to put this situation into perspective:

We have been in Iraq for four years and we lost 3,500 Troops. In four years of WWII, we almost lost 500,000 Troops. During the first twenty one days on Iwo, we averaged a thousand losses a day. We have been in Iraq for four years and lost 3,500 Troops, right? Well, that is the middle of the fourth day on Iwo Jima. 52,000 fell in two years of Korea. Our bloodiest day took place in 4 hours not four years. We saw 22,000 casualties in fours hours at Antietam.

What happened to the words, ‘we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival of liberty”?

I’ll tell you what happened, the Demorats silenced those words and now a mess of RINOs like Lugar and Domenici are silencing those words. Along with our media, the leaders of the Demoratic Party, and the RINOs need to grow a back bone, pickup a weapon, and stand a post. We need to show our Troops and our enemy resolve.

We will leave Iraq when the Iraqi people can protect themselves from an outside threat and maintain some peace from within. Until then, we must help them fix the problems they face. And we must remove commie traitors from the homeland.

17 posted on 07/09/2007 4:09:01 PM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good.


18 posted on 07/09/2007 4:47:39 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (MR. BUSH: GET OUT OF REAGAN'S HOUSE!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Seen Dis ??

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288735,00.html

AP: Report to Say Iraqi
Government Gets an ‘F’

WASHINGTON — A progress report on Iraq will conclude that the U.S.-backed government in Baghdad has not met any of its targets for political, economic and other reform, speeding up the Bush administration’s reckoning on what to do next, a U.S. official said.

One likely result of the report will be a vastly accelerated debate among President Bush’s top aides on withdrawing troops and scaling back the U.S. presence in Iraq.

The “pivot point” for addressing the matter will no longer be Sept. 15, as initially envisioned, when a full report on Bush’s so-called “surge” plan is due, but instead will come this week when the interim mid-July assessment is released, the official said Monday.

“The facts are not in question,” the official told The Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity because the draft is still under discussion. “The real question is how the White House proceeds with a post-surge strategy in light of the report.”

The report, required by law, is expected to be delivered to Capitol Hill by Thursday or Friday, as the Senate takes up a $649 billion defense policy bill and votes on a Democratic amendment ordering troop withdrawals to begin in 120 days.


19 posted on 07/09/2007 6:21:41 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: tobyhill

The Prez ought to call in Snowe, Warner, Pete Dom, Alexander,Smith and any other waffling surrender dove and thrash them with the facts he has. He is the Commander in Chief not them. They will hate it, but then when they realize that no one in the BASE is ever going to vote for them again, it might change their minds. We shall see. But, to join with the surrender Quislings of the Dem Party is simply unforgiveable in this serious war of survival for our culture and Western worldview. To be frank, one expects a Dem leftist to be almost treasonous. To have some wussy Pub Senators follow Reid’s line, is anathama.


20 posted on 07/09/2007 7:41:28 PM PDT by phillyfanatic ( w)
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