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1 posted on 07/09/2007 4:12:52 AM PDT by John Galt 72
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To: John Galt 72
On a related note...

Ethanol on the fast track IRL's decision to make switch may spur more converts to new fuel.

Meanwhile...

Food For Thought — General Mills Raising Prices, Shrinking Cereal Boxes

2 posted on 07/09/2007 4:15:51 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: NormsRevenge

Brainless ping


3 posted on 07/09/2007 4:18:27 AM PDT by don-o (End Freepathons forever. Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor)
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To: John Galt 72
So the cost of gasoline is going to push NASCAR to alternative fuels?

The fuel consumed by the race cars in an infinitesimal fraction of the cost of running NASCAR. This excuse is BS.

I have taken a one-year no France-bashing pledge, after the election of Sarkozy, but I think I can make an exception for NASCAR CEO Brian France. What a lying POS!

4 posted on 07/09/2007 4:23:03 AM PDT by gridlock (Righty Tighty / Lefty Loosey)
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To: John Galt 72

Arthur Ochs (Pinch) Sulzberger Jr. has devastated the family franchise, the NY Times, affectionately known as The Commie Rag.

I believe he is 4th generation.

The France family will do for NASCAR what Pinch did for the Times soon enough.


5 posted on 07/09/2007 4:25:56 AM PDT by Stallone (Fred Thompson is the Man for the Times)
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To: John Galt 72

The aptly-named “France”.


6 posted on 07/09/2007 4:26:59 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG (Apparently my former party considers me an "ugly nativist".)
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To: John Galt 72

There’s a sucker born every minute.


8 posted on 07/09/2007 4:29:16 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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fuel prices don’t seem to be coming down to the levels they were at three or four years ago.

Same goes for milk and bread.
9 posted on 07/09/2007 4:37:40 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: John Galt 72
Then you have a compounded issue with more data than ever that’s coming in on global warming

How does ethanol connect with global warming, or more accurately with the production of carbon dioxide? Does this idiot think that oxidation of ethanol doesn't produce carbon dioxide? (I don't know for sure but my guess is that you produce less carbon dioxide per joule oxidizing gasoline.)

ML/NJ

10 posted on 07/09/2007 4:48:23 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: IncPen

so little time.
Wasnt Dave Matthews fined for dumping bus porta potty into Chicago river??


12 posted on 07/09/2007 4:58:01 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: John Galt 72
Dave Matthews, who said at a Live Earth concert, “I’m flawed. Cows fart and so do I.”

Yeah, but at least cows don't dump raw sewage on tour boats.
13 posted on 07/09/2007 5:06:11 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: John Galt 72

Recently Congress passed a new law requiring 35 mpg by 2020.

Will the new cars be expected to get 35 mpg off Ethanol which is 35% less fuel efficient than gasoline.?

They have a lot of work to do to get there.


14 posted on 07/09/2007 5:18:28 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (http://www.imwithfred.com/index.aspx)
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To: John Galt 72
I've been trying to figure this stuff out for a while now... I thought that the reason we're supposed to be moving towards ethanol was to cut our dependence on foreign oil. Of course, given the amount of fuel we burn, that means we're going to have to import more grains, food, and/or ethanol!

We've been told by the Supreme Court that CO2 is a "greenhouse gas, and that the EPA can regulate it as a pollutant... And we keep hearing that we need to switch to ethanol...

Excuse me, but ethanol is a hydrocarbon which, when burned produces CO2... And because it contains less energy than gasoline, more must be burned for the same application. Therefore, if there's a switch to ethanol in NASCAR, in a 400 mile race, more alcohol needs to be burned, so there's actually MORE CO2 produced, meaning that there's actually a HIGHER "carbon footprint!"

Am I the only one to see this?

Mark

15 posted on 07/09/2007 5:19:30 AM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: John Galt 72

I think we need to organize a massive convoy of SUVs to go around the country to raise awareness about global warming. Maybe we would get some 747s to tow a giant banner urging people to use a single sheet of toilet paper for each wipe.


16 posted on 07/09/2007 5:28:22 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: John Galt 72

Maybe some carheads can correct me where I’m wrong but I see this as a good thing.

Ethanol and other fuels have/create a much higher octane than gasoline alone. The higher octane allows engines (esp. turbos tuned for it) to run at higher compression which means more power which means more funner races :)

Hell of alot less efficient but with more power, sounds like something NASCAR would be jumping at!

Right?


20 posted on 07/09/2007 6:28:09 AM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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To: John Galt 72

Brian “Frenchie” France is the absolute worst thing to happen to any sport, any where. Talk to any real NASCAR fan (ones who remember bias ply tires) and you will find out how much damage this imbecile has done to NASCAR. He’s Eliot Spitzer without the ability to dress himself.


21 posted on 07/09/2007 7:25:45 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Now....ENFORCE EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAWS!!!)
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To: John Galt 72
"NASCAR’s 75 million fans comprise the second-largest spectator sport fan base in America."

NASCARS biggest event is the Daytona 500,. This year it's TV ratings were an average audience of 17.53 million viewers.

That less than 25% of all NASCAR fans who bother to tune into the Super Bowl of the sport?

Nascar lies through it's teeth.

22 posted on 07/09/2007 7:46:16 AM PDT by Afronaut (Press 2 for English - Thanks Mr. President !)
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