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Healthy Plan But Expanding Waistline (California's Something For Nothing Health Plan Alert)
Townhall.com ^ | 07/09/2007 | Debra Saunders

Posted on 07/08/2007 9:30:54 PM PDT by goldstategop

If Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger manages to get his universal health care package past the California Legislature, he will become a real action hero for the 4.8 million Californians who lack health care at any given moment, as well as insured residents who live in fear of losing both their jobs and their health plans.

He would be a superhero if he found an honest way to pay for it. State Health and Human Services Secretary Kim Belshe noted that Schwarzenegger believes "the opportunity is this year."

There is much to like in the governor's package. Plan Schwarzenegger calls for "shared responsibility" and "shared benefit:" It would not only provide access to health care to all Californians, but also require that all Californians sign onto a health care plan.

Under this plan, the state would provide health care for poor children and free care for adults whose income falls below the federal poverty level through Medi-Cal. Those with incomes of up to 250 percent of the poverty level will be eligible for subsidized coverage through a state-run insurance pool. Adults who earn more than that would have to buy private coverage.

Plan Schwarzenegger would encourage employers to provide health coverage through private HMOs and insurers. Those employers with 10 employees or more who don't provide health care for their workers would have to pay a 4 percent payroll tax (officially it's an "in-lieu fee") into a state health-care insurance fund.

Many critics fear that 4 percent is too low because it is less than what employers pay in premiums today -- and that, in order to save money, some employers might leave their private insurance plans and switch to the state pool. In June, the Assembly passed a measure, authored by Speaker Fabian Nunez, which would require all employers pay 7.5 percent payroll tax, but would not require all self-employed or uninsured Californians, who can afford to buy their own coverage, to do so.

The most revolutionary idea is Schwarzenegger's proposal to make the state reimburse health care providers the full cost of Medi-Cal services. For decades, states and the federal government have paid for their big promises by forcing doctors and hospitals to treat government-plan patients at a loss -- a cost that is passed on to private plans.

While many have argued that cost-shifting to fund the uninsured drives up the cost of private care, the California Chamber of Commerce's think tank recently found that low reimbursement rates from Medicare and Medi-Cal force health care providers to shift costs to private plans -- to the tune of 10.8 percent of private premiums, as opposed to 1.4 percent to pay for the uninsured.

Parts of Team Arnold's plan are downright fatuous. Take the promise to cut costs by reducing paperwork. Surely if paperless processing would save money, the greedy and evil -- or if you are a Republican, savvy -- health-care providers would have done so by now.

The governor's office estimates that some 1 million workers -- about a quarter of uninsured Californians -- are undocumented. Plan Schwarzenegger expects 40,000 of them to be covered by their employers, 160,000 to buy their own coverage and the rest to enroll in county-run plans. I still worry about a magnet effect that would draw illegal immigrants and out-of-staters to our sunny clime. I am told Schwarzenegger will negotiate a residency requirement with the Legislature.

Meanwhile, Sacramento seems to have decided not to let immigration issues stop the California dream of universal coverage. Sacramento also seems resolved to find the worst way to pay for it.

Schwarzenegger opposes any general tax increase. In addition, GOP lawmakers will not vote for any tax increase, which requires a two-thirds vote of the Legislature. "I let their 'no' votes on health care reform speak for themselves," Nunez spokesman Richard Stapler commented.

Thus, Schwarzenegger proposes paying for his plan with fees. In addition to the employer in-lieu fee, the governor proposes a 4 percent tax on hospital revenues and 2 percent tax on doctors' revenues. Ah, cost-shifting again.

The state continues to spend more than it takes in every year, yet somehow Schwarzenegger and the Democratic Legislature are going to provide universal health care without asking all Californians to pay for it.

The right thing to do, because GOP members are irrelevant, would be for Democratic leaders and the governor to agree on a bill that raises gasoline or sales taxes to pay for this plan. Then all Californians (even those in the underground economy) would pay for universal care, and have a stake in the new program.

California should have a new motto: If it is worth having, it is worth paying for. Not: We always want more something for nothing.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnoldcare; california; debrasaunders; itsfree; kalifornistan; liberalism; michaelmooreapproved; sicko; townhall
Arnold Care: California's Something For Nothing Health Care Plan. Michael Moore Approved. TM

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 07/08/2007 9:30:58 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

I think it is wonderful how the taxpayers of California will now provide health insurance to the citizens of oil rich Mexico.


2 posted on 07/08/2007 9:36:28 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: goldstategop

He’s out of his mind!

“FREE HEALTHCARE”?

LOL!!

“The governor’s office estimates that some 1 million workers — about a quarter of uninsured Californians — are undocumented. Plan Schwarzenegger expects 40,000 of them to be covered by their employers, 160,000 to buy their own coverage and the rest to enroll in county-run plans. I still worry about a magnet effect that would draw illegal immigrants and out-of-staters to our sunny clime. I am told Schwarzenegger will negotiate a residency requirement with the Legislature.”

Yeah, give ILLEGALS healthcare too - for FREE!!!

LOL!


3 posted on 07/08/2007 9:41:43 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: goldstategop

hey!

i gotta nifty idea kiddies:

let’s have universal health care

and give it to all the illegals crossing the border

and go broke.

(/s)


4 posted on 07/08/2007 9:43:24 PM PDT by ken21 (fred.)
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To: FormerACLUmember; NormsRevenge; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; ElkGroveDan; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; ...
I simply cannot believe how gutwrenchingly stupid people of all political persuasions can become when the flashing spotlights surrounding some lame brained celebrity catch their eyes! Jesse Ventura... Arnold Schwartzenegger... Both ironic stars of the movie appropriately named "Predator!" Well, I take that back... At least Jesse had been a actual factual real-live Navy Seal!!!

All Schwartzenegger's done besides being famous for being famous is lie in bed each nite hoping for sexual favors from a Kennedy!!! And we had gobs of FReepers yellin at many of the rest of us for not supporting this role playing puppet of the Kennedy's???

5 posted on 07/08/2007 9:45:59 PM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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To: goldstategop
The right thing to do, because GOP members are irrelevant, would be for Democratic leaders and the governor to agree on a bill that raises gasoline or sales taxes to pay for this plan. Then all Californians ...

... (Who are in this country legally) will become eligible for the free health care because they won't be able to afford to drive to work.

The smart ones will leave. The VERY smart ones already have.

6 posted on 07/08/2007 9:46:52 PM PDT by irv
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To: goldstategop
Interesting stuff.

However, no one, not a single legislator is sponsoring the Gov’s proposal. It will never see the light of day, it’s dead before arrival, toast, history, nada, less than zero, Hasta La Vista, Gov Baby!

It is merely a talking point to use with the press.

The real danger is the Nunez/Perata proposal, which might make it to conference committee. It will be incredibly expensive, probably violate federal law and likely be in the courts for years.

There are much smarter proposals out there like at this address:

7 posted on 07/08/2007 10:01:56 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Wiseghy
Oops. Try www.cahu.org, under “Health Solutions”. It’s A perfectly reasonable compromise that preserves the market without outrageous costs.
Sorry that I can’t figure out how to make this a proper link.
8 posted on 07/08/2007 10:04:50 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: goldstategop

Socialisnegger and the Commie stooges in the legislature are taking the once great state of California to the slaughter. Seeing what’s happening in so many places I can’t help feeling that everyone is going completely insane.


9 posted on 07/08/2007 10:08:43 PM PDT by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: SierraWasp
The most revolutionary idea is Schwarzenegger's proposal to make the state reimburse health care providers the full cost of Medi-Cal services.

Ya...that'll work. NOT!!!

10 posted on 07/08/2007 10:33:12 PM PDT by tubebender (Large reward for person offering leads to my missing tag lines...)
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To: Wiseghy

While watching a small portion of Shaq’a attempt, with Coach Brown, to convince a middle school principle to make PE mandatory, I wondered what happened to all the work that Arnold had done for the President’s fitness programs? Does Arnold think that healty kids might lead to healthy adults? Here he is in charge of Calif and he can’t get PE into the school system. Arnold is all show and no go.


11 posted on 07/09/2007 5:01:33 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Wiseghy
I can’t figure out how to make this a proper link.

Thank God. What we don't need is more liberal spam on this forum.

Here's the solution that works. If sick, hire a medical professional for relief. If a medical professional is not affordable, take a moment, review your circumstances and then council the other members of your family to not make the same mistakes.

12 posted on 07/09/2007 2:58:54 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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