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Russia Says U.S. Building 'New Berlin Wall'
AFP ^ | July 8, 2007

Posted on 07/08/2007 6:56:55 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

July 8, 2007 -- Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov says that U.S. plans to set up a missile-defense system in Central Europe amount to building a "new Berlin Wall."

In comments aired on the Rossiya television channel, Ivanov said placing rockets in Poland and a radar station in the Czech Republic "presents an obvious threat to Russia."

Russia has continually voiced its opposition to the U.S. missile defense system that Washington says is meant to offer protection against attacks from Iran and North Korea.

Washington's plans for the missile shield have led to a further deterioration of already unsteady relations between Russia and the United States in recent months.

Russia has proposed creating a joint missile-defense system with United States and NATO participation as an alternative to Washington's current plan, but U.S. officials have treated the proposal cautiously.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ivanov; missiledefense; russia
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Not only is Russia run by a man who loyally served the EVIL EMPIRE which created the real Berlin wall, but he actually served in East Germany during the Cold War and worked with the savage and inhuman Stasi secret police. They gave him a medal.

Russia is a mad dog threatening to destroy ex-Soviet nations which dare to believe they are really free to be friends with the USA. Russia doesn't want anyone to be able to shoot down the missiles they are supplying to their communist and jihadist allies around the world, from Hugo Chavez to the ayatollahs.

1 posted on 07/08/2007 6:56:58 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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C'mon Putin, it's way better than the Berlin Wall. Our wall shoots back!

Interesting how much a purely defensive shield rattles him. Makes you wonder what he has planned.

2 posted on 07/08/2007 6:59:44 PM PDT by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Makes no sense at all.


3 posted on 07/08/2007 7:01:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: inkling

Notice how he wants the missile shield to be in Azerbiajan, or Turkey , or Iraq... anywhere but in Poland. Any threat to his ability to exterminate all Poles really bothers the neo-Soviet Fuhrer.


4 posted on 07/08/2007 7:05:04 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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What a freaking dumb-ass! The US should state that all Eastern Europeans that want to sneak into Russia, will be made available to them, chauffeur driven limousines.


5 posted on 07/08/2007 7:05:33 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Have you read or heard what the reason for Putin’s requested face to face with President Bush? I have not seen or read anything except how the fishing was during the face to face.


6 posted on 07/08/2007 7:05:37 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov says that U.S. plans to set up a missile-defense system in Central Europe amount to building a "new Berlin Wall.

You're darn right,Comrade.But our "Berlin Wall" will be quite different from the one that you ordered your East German "allies" (puppets,really) to build.

Yours was meant to keep your enslaved people prisoners in an abysmal failure of of a social and economic experiment.Ours is meant to protect the civilized nations of Europe launched from missiles from God-knows-where.

7 posted on 07/08/2007 7:05:58 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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Should have listened to Patton


8 posted on 07/08/2007 7:06:55 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
launched from missiles=from missiles launched
9 posted on 07/08/2007 7:07:19 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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Please sir, show me where this hundreds of miles of concrete reinforced barbwired wall complete with guard towers and a kill zone is located?


10 posted on 07/08/2007 7:09:54 PM PDT by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The Berlin wall was built to keep east germans in..

Ours is to keep illegals out!


12 posted on 07/08/2007 7:32:53 PM PDT by angelcindy (Where's the Fence?????)
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We are NOT building a wall!

We're just planning a little fishing trip ...


13 posted on 07/08/2007 7:33:08 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: inkling
Makes you wonder what he has planned.

I am not sure what he has planned... but I know what He has planned.

I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. Persia, Cush and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops—the many nations with you.
14 posted on 07/08/2007 7:35:20 PM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Russia in the uncyclopedia.
15 posted on 07/08/2007 7:37:18 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: festus
Well as unpopular as it is.... They have a point.

I'm lost. Can you explain their point?

The Berlin Wall was an effort to retain control over their own citizens so that they could not escape the Soviet oppression.
Missile defense is an effort to block Russian attacks so that citizens of many sovereign European nations can retain their freedom.

I see no similarities.

16 posted on 07/08/2007 7:46:43 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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Have you ever posted something on one thread when you thought you were on another ?

;-)


17 posted on 07/08/2007 8:11:43 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: festus

Been there, done that.


18 posted on 07/08/2007 8:15:09 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Global missile defense system could be created by 2020 - Ivanov Are you given to overstatement, Joe?
19 posted on 07/08/2007 8:21:51 PM PDT by JohnA
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Actually, missile defense would be nearly worthless against a determined Russian attack.

However, it would be effective against a far more likely “Crimson Tide” blackmail terrorist senario, or attacks by less sophisticated players, such as Iran.

20 posted on 07/08/2007 10:15:11 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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