Posted on 07/08/2007 5:15:15 PM PDT by Reaganesque
We’ve all become a parody of ourselves!
That was nice ^_^ How did you do that side by side posting in HTML?
What can I say Rev you are the one contending that all should be able to attend the Temple worthy or unworthy.
It seem to me you feel that Lord requirement are foolishness and have not indicated that you recognized the need for one to receive and be in the spirit of the Lord in order to enter the Lord house.
All of the Lord children can attend the meetinghouse or chapel it is a place to prepare to go to the house of the Lord.
It does happen that some do attend the temple who are not really not temple worthy but skirted by, but they will not receive the benefits of being in the presents of the Lord as others because the Lord is aware of all our hearts and minds.
It is the same when the days I am in harmony with the Lord I know it, and the times I have allowed the natural man to surface I feel the distance.
There is nothing sweeter than having the Holy Spirit as a Constance companion.
1 Cor 2
12 Now we have received,
not the spirit of the world,
but the spirit which is of God;
that we might know the things
that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak,
not in the words
which man’s wisdom teacheth,
but which the Holy Ghost teacheth;
comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man
receiveth not the things
of the Spirit of God:
for they are foolishness unto him:
neither can he know them,
because they are spiritually discerned.
Wow, so am I supposed understand that you don’t appreciate someone speaking ill of any churches that you agree with? How ironic
You are not an idiot for your ignorance, you are an idiot from your logic. I am not LDS, so give me one example of the LDS church bragging about anything? When you grow up and have opinions and views of your own someday, you just might not be a bigot.
what ?.....so help me understand dearheart - if you dont get permission that means the Spirit isnt in you ?
All of the Lord children can attend the meetinghouse or chapel it is a place to prepare to go to the house of the Lord.
It does happen that some do attend the temple who are not really not temple worthy but skirted by, but they will not receive the benefits of being in the presents of the Lord as others because the Lord is aware of all our hearts and minds.
So help me understand - youre only in the presence of the Lord when in the Temple ?.....I thought the Holy Spirit was in our hearts ?
Love at home
http://www.byu.tv/index.html?start=3600&stop=7200&show=&ep=http://qmplive.xlontech.net/byutv/stream/070710.qvt
You cannot enter the Celestial (highest mormon) kingdom without participating in various temple ordinances, (endowments and sealing), and you cannot take part in the temple ordinances without a "recommend" or "ticket" issued after an interview with a bishop wherein you are asked if you pay a full tithe, among other requirements.
1. Do you believe in God, the Eternal Father, in his Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost; and do you have a firm testimony of the restored gospel?
2. Do you sustain the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the prophet, seer, and revelator; and do you recognize him as the only person on the earth authorized to exercise all priesthood keys?
3. Do you sustain the other General Authorities and the local authorities of the Church?
4. Do you live the law of chastity?
5. Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
6. Do you affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with the precepts of any such group or individual?
7. Do you earnestly strive to do your duty in the Church; to attend your sacrament, priesthood, and other meetings; and to obey the rules, laws, and commandments of the gospel?
8. Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
9. Are you a full-tithe payer?
10. Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?
11. Have you ever been divorced or are you now separated from your spouse under order of a civil court? If yes, (a) - Are you current in your support payments and other financial obligations for family members, as specified by court order or in other written, binding commitments? (b) Were there any circumstances of transgression in connection with your divorce or separation that have not been previously resolved with your bishop?
12. If you have received your temple endowment -- (a) Do you keep all the covenants that you made in the temple? (b) Do you wear the authorized garments both day and night?
13. Has there been any sin or misdeed in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but has not?
14. Do you consider yourself worthy in every way to enter the temple and participate in temple ordinances?
It may just be early buy I really do not get what you are saying. The Matt 17:20 has nothing to do with who Sandra equates Jesus and Smith.
Most if not all prophets were ridiculed. Smith a prophet I do not think so.
Jesus is The Son of God not a lowly man prophet.
Good lord, no wonder these LDS walk around like zombies who could possibly follow all these rules and ever have assurance of a glorious afterlife.
I find the simplicity of Salvation so much more appealing. Praise God!
take care
resty - you cant honestly enter temple - nor can any other mormon who participates regularly on FR
8. Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
No, youve not truthfully answered or even attempted to answer any of my legitimate questions
bwahahah - and if any mormon here claims they have been (to temple), while participating at FR- they are doing so under fraudulent circumstances - and thats a decpetion - and thats of the devil
Are you talking about Jesus Christ the ONLY SON of GOD or Smith?
Since you seem to equate the two I get confused. Or are you saying what the organizers of LDS say the lord says or what you have been led to believe they say by the mysterious revelations?
Just as a side reminder I have not made fun of Smith. It is Saundra who made fun of him by equating him with Christ.
Give it a rest Saundra never equated Joseph Smith on the level of Jesus Christ!
It is you who took it that way!
“You know what. Joseph Smith predicted this kind of ill treatment - that his name would be known for good and evil. You are fulfilling prophesy by making fun of him and calling him names and I am fulfilling prophesy by saying he was a Prophet of God and worthy of respect in the same way Moses was. Oh, by the way, they made fun of Moses, too, and all of the Prophets, spit on them, and laughed them to scorn. (They did it to Jesus, too, and still do to this day.) You are in great company.”
Her quote is above. That Smith is a prophet of god and Jesus is a prophet of god both ridiculed and made fun of - sorry but that equates them as equal.
I want you to notice I did not capitalize god because I do not know which god Smith is supposed to be a prophet of and Jesus is God so when you say He is a prophet of god, it does not make sense.
2 nephi 25
28 And now behold, my people, ye are a stiffnecked people; wherefore, I have spoken plainly unto you, that ye cannot misunderstand. And the words which I have spoken shall stand as a testimony against you; for they are sufficient to teach any man the right way; for the right way is to believe in Christ and deny him not; for by denying him ye also deny the prophets and the law.
If you had actually read my post you would see I do not attend church.
The mormons are not the only ones that help people. All through these threads it is brought up how the lds are nice people, family people, help others, and so on... I don't deny that, but so are people from other churches. That should not even be an issue when discussing the lds church or any church.
From your other post to me...
How much does your little piss-ant church do for the world?
Again I do not belong to a church. You don't have to belong to a church to help others. It is just the Christian 'thing' to do.
“if any mormon here claims they have been (to temple), while participating at FR- they are doing so under fraudulent circumstances”
There is nothing about participating in FR or communicating in any way non-members (even those hostile to the church) that requires a Mormon to embrace anything contrary to what the church teaches. I don’t even see what there is about the teachings or practices of FR that could be considered contrary to church. We believe in freedom of speech too.
“No, youve not truthfully answered or even attempted to answer any of my legitimate questions”
I haven’t followed your conversation, but not answering a question is not dishonest, neither is giving an answer you don’t happen to like or accept. I’ve never known resty to lie.
I attend the temple as often as circumstances permit, and I honestly don’t see any reason to consider my conduct here in violation of the standards required to be worthy to enter. Neither does my Bishop or Stake President. Your opinion to the contrary is meaningless.
The first Church Council addressed this. Of note is the fact that the first Council mentioned zero about temple worship or temple ordinances as a requirement for the newly converted believers about whom the council was convened. 'Restoring' temple worship and temple ordinances under Smith, a non-Levite, is a first level clue that Mormonism is an heresy with a religious aura wrapped around it. But perhaps that is too deep a perspective to discuss at FR.
ask her about the deception of her multiple screen names used in the religion forum
now you do
as for my questions - I havent seen any attempt at answering - let alone something I "dont like"
with regards to FR - Im interested how you legitimize the caveat under the guise of free speech and would remind you that this is not a free speech forum, rather a private conservative forum we are allowed to participate in.....That said - you are now an "affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints", as there are individuals who would persecute you for your faith, malign the BOM, and / or Joseph Smith.....the website is called free republic - not free speech forum
you are decieveing yourself to consider otherwise
Beyond that, I was asking legitimate questions - perhaps youd like to address them ?
otherwise have a great afternoon
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