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To: laurie_d
Please provide your posts prior to 2004 where you complained about Bush’s stated agenda?

You can't keep up?

He was pushing amnesty in 2001. The 9-11 attacks put that on hold. They re-started it in 2002. It was stopped in the Senate on a technicality. Do you know who stopped it? They tried to revive it, but with terrorism and the election top priorities, it never got much of a following to try again. Then amnesty was pushed after the 2004 election, because Bush knew (1) he didn't have to worry about re-election and (2) he had 4 years to make it happen. It was pushing through the REPUBLICAN SENATE in 2006. The Republican House stopped it. It was pushed again in 2007, with slight revisions. It was stopped in the DEMOCRATIC SENATE. It was resurrected, slightly revised, bumped up with a $4.4 billion bribe, and it got shot down again, most by Republicans in the DEMOCRATIC SENATE.

So, did you figure out who stopped it on a technicality in 2002? Senator Robert Byrd (D-WVA).

Like it or not, it seems a Democratic Senator shot it the first time, and the Democratci Senate killed it twice this year (so far).

That is a better track record than the Republican President pushing it, reviving it, pushing it, reviving it; and the Republican Senate passing it in 2006.

Just before the 2002 election the RNC sent out a memo to the party leaders through the country and told them to avoid the issue of immigration.

If you need more information, try googling. It can be fun and educational.
18 posted on 07/07/2007 8:14:18 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

So, now the new FR line on the reason to bash Bush is as follows:

Bush was elected in 2000 by pushing amnesty. And then came 9/11 and everything was put on hold. Keep in mind you’re claiming that amnesty was a main agenda item.

So, Bush gets re-elected in 2004. Amnesty was a big topic of debate, wasn’t it? NO it was not.

Now, *I* am pleased that the bill WAS stopped. But to falsely claim that it was a big campaign issue in 2000 and 2004 is just a flat out falsehood.

Why do you bash Bush? Why, why why? The democrats are making a mess of this country with their control of Congress and their hundreds of subpoenas and demands for hearings. And you’re here bashing Bush. Some of you EVERY DAY.


19 posted on 07/07/2007 8:18:32 AM PDT by laurie_d
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To: TomGuy
"Democrats have a chance to prove they are for open and transparent government by working to complete each spending bill independently and on time," Bush said. "I urge Democrats in Congress to step forward now and pass these bills one at a time. "

"Open and transparent government" after trying to sneak the Amnesty thing through in secret and then jam it down our throats when it was exposed?

I really, really like these two statements he just made, but they aren't congruent with what we just went through.

The part about passing spending bills separately is especially good as it will be harder to sneak in bits of the failed travesty if each bill is small and specific. I guess we hope for the best and stay vigilant.

98 posted on 07/07/2007 9:54:57 AM PDT by Sal (My "good" Senator Kyl exposed himself as a Grand Betrayer, corrupt to the core!)
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To: TomGuy

“the Democratci Senate killed it twice this year (so far). “

CORRECTION: Senate Republicans *IN* the Democratic Senate stopped it this year on a cloture vote. Most Republicans voted against cloture (including in the end the minority leader), while most Democrats voted for moving the bill forward.

The real reason the bill died was grassroots conservative opposition, which found resonannce among people across the country. We called the Senate enough to shut the system down and make Senate staffers go crazy.

Without that strong grassroots response, the elites would have pushed it through and the GOP Senate lemmings would have marched off the cliff behind Bush.

In the end, this is good news. Bush may have been in favor of amnesty for many years, but it never was acceptable to the rank and file. No other republican President would follow that folly, and if a pro-amnesty Democrat takes the White House (Hillary or Obama), they will probaby to their dirty work piecemeal and nto in a ‘comprehensive’ fashion, in order not to wake the sleeping giant of public opposition to this.


156 posted on 07/07/2007 11:25:01 AM PDT by WOSG (thank the Senators who voted "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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