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How Fred's Turning Into a $tealth GOP Powerhouse
New York Post ^ | July 7, 2007 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 07/07/2007 6:55:52 AM PDT by Josh Painter

FRED THOMPSON has decided not to declare his candidacy anytime soon, and it's not hard to see why...

Behind the scenes, Thompson and his die-hard supporters are quietly building a huge nationwide campaign for the White House.

In the past 10 days, "Fred's Fans" have:

* Raised more than $1 million with just two fund-raisers, including $300,000 in Atlanta last night.

* Hired key operatives around the country and are in talks with several more recently laid off by John McCain's crumbling presidential campaign.

* Made significant strides toward the nearly $5 million that Thompson's "First Day Founders" have committed to raising as seed money for a full-fledged presidential campaign.

In doing so, Thompson has shown he can raise as much cash as other Republicans who have been in the field for months, if not years...

McCain insiders admit that a major reason they are nearly broke with no real prospects for recovery is that they rushed out and bought a big national campaign way before they were in a position to pay for it.

Thompson isn't going to make that mistake...

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; fred; fredthompson; fundraising; gop; nomination
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To: advance_copy
Or, if you’ve got “minutes” that do anything more than mention FDT as one of the lawyers at a firm hired by a “family planning” group, please also post that.

Unlike most of the other responses on this thread so far, yours is a reasonable explanation.
81 posted on 07/07/2007 8:59:19 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Old_Mil
This isn't about Duncan Hunter, this is about where Fred Thompson stands on issues of major importance to the conservative movement.

With all due respect, which isn't much in my view, this isn't about either Fred Thompson or Duncan Hunter with you.

What this looks like to me is that with you it's all about Old_Mill.

82 posted on 07/07/2007 9:00:42 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Old_Mil
"...and senators don't win the White House."

True. Unless it's Senator vs Ex-Senator.

83 posted on 07/07/2007 9:02:04 AM PDT by LEARNED FOREVER
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To: John Valentine

That’s the problem with you Fred people. instead of posting a reasoned response to a legitimate question like advance did, you go into full on attack mode against whoever poses a question about your candidate. This is more about the ideology of the man that we chose to represent us, not his name.


84 posted on 07/07/2007 9:02:49 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Old_Mil
This would be Fred...the same candidate who’s hired an open homosexual as a senior advisor and has “no recollection” of lobbying in support of abortion?

The "lobbying in support of abortion" charge is BS. It's brought to you by an abortionist who doesn't want to see Roe v. Wade overturned like Fred does.

You spread her propaganda.

85 posted on 07/07/2007 9:08:08 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Weeedley
Seems to me thats what we've done before and we all see the mess thats gotten us into. We've got to pick a person that is going to restore this country back to the will of the people not big business and their personal agenda. Don’t jump on some band wagon just because it seems the easiest path to victory or because its popular. We still have yet to hear much about how Mr. Thompson will do things if elected. At least Mr. Hunter and others are out there expressing ideas. There is plenty of time to make a choice and even change your minds. We should not criticize each other just because of disagreements on potential candidates. Remember the radical rats and some bad republicans are the enemy.
86 posted on 07/07/2007 9:08:15 AM PDT by Racer1
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To: Old_Mil

I don’t quite understand where you’re coming from with that question. The answer would be ‘no.’

My point was that, while Hunter is from California, he cannot “deliver” the state. I think that you and I happen to agree on that.


87 posted on 07/07/2007 9:09:25 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: Old_Mil

Here’s what I had to say on another thread:

“Let’s say this is the real truth: Fred Thompson, a lawyer, had an office in a Washington law firm and lent them his name as a rainmaker.

“Now let’s say that a client walks in the front door and says they want some legal work/lobbying done and the law firm takes on the client, even trotting Fred out for a meet and greet.

“Now let’s say that the client walks away thinking that Fred’s going to do the work, but that may not be the case. Fred may only have been introduced to them and nothing more. Sombody a lot cheaper than Fred Thompson probably wrote a few letters and maybe even stopped by someone’s office.

“The story peddled by the client is that Fred lobbied White House official John L. Sununu. But Sununu says, ‘I don’t recall him ever lobbying me on that at all. I don’t think that ever happened. In fact, I know that never happened.’

“What does Fred have to say? Thompson spokesman Mark Corallo said, ‘Fred Thompson did not lobby for this group, period.’

‘Frankly, I believe Thompson did NOT lobby for this group. If he did lobby for them, there would be billing records to prove it, and they would have been printed in the LA Slimes right there on the front page next to the lead.

“His only sin seems to be that he had an office in the law firm of Arent Fox.”

How is this different from what advance said?

My sin, if I have one, is losing patience with people who ought to know better, but still parrot the latest liberal lies against good conservatives. You’ll search my posts and you’ll NEVER find one dumping on Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo or any good conservative.

I support Fred Thompson because he is an articulate, likable conservative who can win. I just can’t see spending much effort on fruitless quests. I want to win.


88 posted on 07/07/2007 9:10:07 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: DevSix
Furthermore what is wrong if one during their life time has shown maturity and grown both spiritually and intellectually (as it may appear F. Thompson has done on the issue of abortion). That is not a weakness it is a strength.}

Yes, and contrast that to Rudy who in 1989 was originally against Roe v. Wade.

89 posted on 07/07/2007 9:11:47 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Racer1
At least Mr. Hunter and others are out there expressing ideas.

You may be right, but I haven't really heard much of what they might be other than that they are generally conservative and that he is against illegal immigration.

But your implication that Fred Thompson is NOT out there expressing ideas is so entirely wrongheaded that I can't imagine where such a notion could come from. Fred's support stems directly from the fact that he HAS been out there expressing ideas, on almost every subject of interest to Americans.

90 posted on 07/07/2007 9:14:33 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Racer1
Fred Thompson expresses many ideas. Most of us support him because of those ideas he expresses and how he is able to express them. The more we hear from him, the more he matches what we want in a candidate.

I just want a candidate that understands national security and not only wants our borders secured and our current immigration laws enforced, but actually gets WHY we are opposed to shamnesty and isn't afraid to say it.

I want a candidate that understands the second amendment and not only understands the importance of appointing conservative judges to stop judicial tyranny, but also understands how precious life is.

I want a candidate that won't pander to European socialists and is willing to tell the Mexican government how things are, as well as being willing to actually say how useless the UN is.

I also feel it is extremely important to nominate a candidate that can articulate conservatism in a way that everyone can understand, to counter the demagoguery of the left. I like a candidate who can explain why tax cuts are good for our economy and can show man-made global warming for the joke that it is. It would be refreshing to see a candidate explain why we should back Israel and make damn sure Iran never gets a nuke.

Wouldn't it be great to have a candidate that see's CAIR for what it is? Even better to have a candidate that calls out Democrats for being the defeatist losers that they are.

While we're dreaming the impossible dream and looking for this perfect candidate, I'd also like to throw in that I would love to nominate a candidate who can use the new media to his advantage and get around old media liberal bias.

I don't know where we'd ever find such a candidate, but if we can find him, we'll do well in 2008. :)

91 posted on 07/07/2007 9:20:00 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (<---- is vacationing from gnats)
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To: Old_Mil
...as opposed to Fred, who signed campaign finance reform...

Hunter voted for the CFR follow-up.

Hunter is your candidate, you seriously didn't know that?

92 posted on 07/07/2007 9:20:47 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Salvey
Do these conciliatory comments also apply to Rudy?

Different circumstances.

A homosexual is working for Fred

Rudy worked for homosexuals

93 posted on 07/07/2007 9:24:36 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: Old_Mil
Old_Mil wrote: "This would be Fred...the same candidate who’s hired an open homosexual as a senior advisor and has “no recollection” of lobbying in support of abortion?

And you would be Old_Mil...the same Hunter supporter who's quick to take sides with the Clintons and the liberal media as long as it's against Fred Thompson?

Pardon me while I puke...



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Fred Thompson FAQ: THE Fred Thompson Web Resource
94 posted on 07/07/2007 9:35:14 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("The CIA has better politicians than it has spies." - Fred Thompson)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

If I understand what your (actually gets Why we are opposed to shamnesty) youtube link presented is that he stated we want our borders secured before any amnesty. No thanks I say no amnesty at all. The end of the line forms in other countries, go there and wait your turn.


95 posted on 07/07/2007 9:45:11 AM PDT by Racer1
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To: John Valentine

I guess I should have been a little clearer and said as declared candidates.


96 posted on 07/07/2007 9:47:54 AM PDT by Racer1
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To: Racer1

That’s not what he says there at all. What he’s doing there at the beginning is drawing a correlation between national security and our open borders. After that, he hits it right on the head that we don’t trust their bill to secure the border, because we’ve been duped by them before. There sure aren’t too many people out there saying such things.

I think you’re talking about something else he wrote:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/FredThompson/2007/05/19/the_immigration_bill_comprehensive_or_incomprehensible&Comments=true

The only way someone could interpret what you get out of it though, is a severe lack of ability to understand sarcasm.

While we’re on the subject, here’s a great interview with Mark Levin from the day the original bill was introduced:

http://jebstersr.freepgs.com/MLFAudio/FredThompson051807.wma


97 posted on 07/07/2007 10:18:38 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (<---- is vacationing from gnats)
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To: Racer1

You wouldn’t be saying that we should discount the open expressions of ideas from a candidate if he hasn’t officially declared yet, are you?


98 posted on 07/07/2007 10:20:52 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (<---- is vacationing from gnats)
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To: DevSix

I don’t have an issue with whom Fred hires unless they are policy advisors.

Let’s say his education advisor is a homosexual activist who mhas spent decades with the NEA.....then it’s danger Will Robinson.

if this guy’s job is just to organize campaign efforts then who cares...


99 posted on 07/07/2007 10:29:12 AM PDT by wardaddy (Islam and Amnesty are the enemy)
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To: Ditter

They’ve been out for months in Tennessee. I saw the first one in March. it must have been a FReeper! :^)


100 posted on 07/07/2007 10:33:08 AM PDT by eyedigress
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