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Expert: Nuke terror better than even bet [AMERICAN HIROSHIMA]
World Net Daily ^ | July 6, 2007

Posted on 07/06/2007 4:23:33 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: mdmathis6

Besides the fact that your recommendation will never be adopted by the USG, making the entire religion our enemy is counterproductive and will do absolutely nothing to address the problem of militant Islamic fundamentalism or forestall a nuclear attack against our cities.


121 posted on 07/06/2007 12:34:35 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel

“One with experience in such devices, the willingness to share it, and the proper disregard for human life in order for an attack of this type to occur, much less succeed.”

Try Pakistan who has done all of this except the actualy detonation itself.

“The US would figure out the culprits in short order. Whether the President would take the appropriate action is the only question. All must know that the price of nuking the US is too high to contemplate.

That price must be complete annihilation.”

So where do we nuke, the tribal regions of Pakistan? Great we kill some goat-herding tea drinkers with AK’s. Their whole country is expendable at least to the fanatics who are very quickly gaining control...


122 posted on 07/06/2007 3:01:24 PM PDT by quant5
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To: T.Smith

“It’s terrible to say, but it would almost be a relief. We could finally take the gloves off. At least, I hope that we would take the gloves off. If an end is ever to be put to Islamic terror, it will take something like this to precipitate the necessary force.”

It would not be any kind of relief friend. When it occurs, the entire economy will collapse. It’s hard to fight wars without money. The country would go under martial law and since so many of us work in service industries these days, starvation and mobs would quickly occur. I am sure our enemies overseas would not sit still either, considering we will be at our weakest and most vulnerable since the Revolutionary War.


123 posted on 07/06/2007 3:04:32 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Hazwaste

Their choice is far more likely to be symbolic - hence the fascination with NYC and DC. Houston really doesn’t qualify there and neither, for the most part, would LA.


124 posted on 07/06/2007 3:11:36 PM PDT by mgstarr (KZ-6090 Smith W.)
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To: kabar

“Good point, especially when China starts putting more pressure on Taiwan once the 2008 Olympics are over and the US is in the middle of an election campaign. Early 2009 would give them a window opportunity with a new US administration. The only drawback would be the loss of US trade and the impact that would have on its economy.”

They will not need us after the Bejjing Olympics:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/IF22Dj02.html

China is putting their money into ‘super hedge funds’ and has almost entirely ceased investing in our economy by buying treasury bonds. We still give them the excess trade imbalance but we now get nothing in return except cheap Wal Mart goods and poisoned *hit.


125 posted on 07/06/2007 3:11:55 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Capt. Tom

“Had one of those 9-11 planes crashed into Wash. DC and killed a bunch of politicians,the attitude would have been a lot different. - tom”

The Pentagon was close enough and should have caused us to never even think about what to do:

1) Become energy independant, shut off their flow of cash
2) Sealed the border
3) Conduct vigorous profiling
4) Held the muslim community accountable by shutting down all Mosques until credible information was given to law enforcement.
5) Attacked Iran and destroyed the leadership.

We have done none of these things


126 posted on 07/06/2007 3:16:03 PM PDT by quant5
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To: kabar
And create a billion plus enemies immediately upon announcing the policy.

It doesn't have to be publicly announced. Just pass the word along through diplomatic (and other) channels to the right sets of ears while maintaining complete deniability. Tell them to control their nutjobs or everyone pays the price.

George W. Bush certainly has credibility in this regard: the rational elements of the Islamic world have already noted that the destruction of two buildings in NYC led to the removal of two governments perceived as too supportive of the terrorists. Bush's payback had a huge, huge multiplier.

127 posted on 07/06/2007 3:33:20 PM PDT by CommerceComet
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128 posted on 07/06/2007 3:38:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Indianhead Division: Second To None!)
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To: quant5

As long as we are their biggest customer, i.e., we buy 21% of their exports, they will need us more than we will need them.


129 posted on 07/06/2007 3:51:11 PM PDT by kabar
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To: CommerceComet
It doesn't have to be publicly announced. Just pass the word along through diplomatic (and other) channels to the right sets of ears while maintaining complete deniability. Tell them to control their nutjobs or everyone pays the price.

Tell who exactly? How do you maintain deniability if you tell them? And what do you tell the American people? Do you think that we could keep that secret considering the number of people involved?

George W. Bush certainly has credibility in this regard: the rational elements of the Islamic world have already noted that the destruction of two buildings in NYC led to the removal of two governments perceived as too supportive of the terrorists. Bush's payback had a huge, huge multiplier.

Yeah, right. Since we have taken down those two state sponsors of terrorism, all attacks have stopped--not. Iran and Syria are providing training and sending arms and advisors to help the insurgents in Iraq, including AQ. When/if we have another major attack here, will you still be saying the same thing?

130 posted on 07/06/2007 3:57:59 PM PDT by kabar
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To: theDentist

But they’d really scare the sheeple if they blew up Hollywood.

That would be “friendly fire”.


131 posted on 07/06/2007 4:14:34 PM PDT by Rocky Mountain High
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To: kabar

Tell who exactly? How do you maintain deniability if you tell them? And what do you tell the American people? Do you think that we could keep that secret considering the number of people involved?

Our govt has already done this. Damascus, Tehran, etc. have all been put on notice.

I can’t elaborate, but we HAVE put them on notice.


132 posted on 07/06/2007 4:17:05 PM PDT by Rocky Mountain High
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To: Rocky Mountain High

LOL.


133 posted on 07/06/2007 4:28:06 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Travis McGee; blam

West Coast for sure for fallout phobia post effect......large population , sea port as you state and where prevailing winds will do most damage to secondary large population centers.

I’d say San Diego with fallout pattern to Las Vegas NV and all points possible east of there if I was to SWAG the issue from here in the cheap seats !.........:o)


134 posted on 07/06/2007 4:33:33 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well - what if the helping nation is.... China?


135 posted on 07/06/2007 4:41:06 PM PDT by traumer
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To: windsorknot
A Muslim nuclear attack on this country should be an open invitation to target their “holy” sites.

This country no longer has the moral courage to do something like that. I'm amazed that we can still find soldiers to fight for us. God bless the ones that do.

136 posted on 07/06/2007 4:41:16 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee

Nuclear targets based on known defense, value of target, population, and military sites

Effects of a ONE megaton nuclear detonation

137 posted on 07/06/2007 4:55:48 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Squantos
L.A. Would be a safer bet, if the winds are blowing to the south you get San Diego, to the east you get Vegas, to the North you get San Fran.

If this does happen Mecca should become a pile of glass. And for kicks just blow up the Dome of the Rockl

138 posted on 07/06/2007 4:56:51 PM PDT by LukeL (Never let the enemy pick the battle site. (Gen. George S. Patton))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

jus’ ‘member

to judge the direction of the fallout cloud

and to drive perpendicular!

si.

that should put you in tijuana.


139 posted on 07/06/2007 5:01:47 PM PDT by ken21
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To: hford02
I suggest Al Quida would take out a big soft target like Bentonville Arkansas with Walmart’s HQ and the true economic center of the US.

Interesting concept. I'm sure they have backup data center operations offsite, probably multiple sites, but key corporate personnel are something else.

140 posted on 07/06/2007 5:06:18 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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