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iPhone Activation Disasters
Macworld [via PC World] ^ | Friday, June 29, 2007 | Jim Dalrymple, Macworld

Posted on 07/03/2007 8:01:44 PM PDT by angkor

iPhone Activation Disasters

Three hours after getting my hands on one, I am ready to drop the thing from the 44th floor of the New York Hilton.

I was so excited flying from my home in Halifax to New York this morning--I was getting an iPhone! But three hours after getting my hands on one, I am ready to drop the thing from the 44th floor of the New York Hilton--and I probably would if I was sure it would hit someone from AT&T. Earlier this week I transferred my Macworld business account to an individual account solely for the purpose of getting an iPhone--I had to since business plans don't qualify for the iPhone. I know for a fact that I'm not the only person who had to do this--and judging from the wait time I'm having on tech support, I'm not the only one having problems.

When I tried to activate my account, I got an error message that said my account couldn't be used with the iPhone. I called AT&T and explained the situation--the service-provider checked the account and said I definitely have a qualifying account. The tech support person checked all kinds of other things and said I should be all set to activate.

No go.

AT&T then said I had to call Apple; I was transferred to Apple iPhone tech support. After explaining the problem, the Apple tech support person asked me to wait while he read some documentation and advised me he would be gone for about four minutes. Four minutes later, we were disconnected without speaking further.

When you get an error activating, a special number comes up. I called it and a recording said they were having technical difficulties and couldn't help me right now and to please call back later.

I decided to call AT&T back again. The person I got said that my account was still listed as a business account--well, that can't be, I changed it. She said I needed to be transferred to another person who would definitely be able to help me.

I explained my problem to the new person who said that my account was most definitely an individual account, not a business account and they didn't know why I couldn't activate it. They needed to transfer me to someone who would be able to help me.

Starting to see a trend here? I explained my problem to the new person who said it could be a business account, and they needed to transfer me. Apparently a password was set on my account when it was transferred and they needed the password in order to check things further.

"But I didn't set a password on the account," I said. AT&T said, for security reasons, it couldn't do anything else until the password was removed.

"OK, remove the password," I said.

Nope, that had to be done at an AT&T retail store where I had to show ID. OK, there is one across the street from the Hilton on Avenue of the Americas in New York.

So, off I went. I explained the situation and said I needed my password removed. The clerk said the store wasn't doing anything but selling iPhones today and that if I needed anything else, I would have to come back tomorrow.

I left in a huff and called AT&T support back again. I explained the situation and they said they needed to--yes, smart readers--transfer me to someone that could help me.

I have been on tech support for a couple of hours, been hung up on once and have been transferred no less than 12 times so far.

And I'm still on hold with AT&T.

If I see that guy from the AT&T Store across the street, this phone is going out the window.

And I see that my colleague Dan Moren is having problems getting his iPhone to work as well. So, Macworld is currently 0-for-2 when it comes to working iPhones; hopefully, our West Coast editors will have better luck.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: att; duediligence; iphone
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To: Swordmaker
How about we read what Dalrymple was writing yesterday instead of what he wrote after three hours of frustration...

All well and good, but have you looked at the Consumer Reports or JD Power customer service ratings for AT&T, pre-iPhone?

In fact you can go to just about any site that reviews cellphones and you'll find tons of AT&T/Cingular horror stories.

I'm not anti-Apple, I'm just baffled that Jobs went with AT&T, which has a worse customer service rep than even Sprint. Sprint!!

That's saying a lot.

41 posted on 07/03/2007 9:06:12 PM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor

AT&T is the only IPhone carrier because they have put up a lot of their own money to get the IPhone up and running. IOW Apple made a large investment in it and so did AT&T. AT&T has provided lots of its cell phone expertise. I view it as a joint venture between the two though that seems to have a two year expiration date where IPhone will also be available on other cell phone providers


42 posted on 07/03/2007 9:09:02 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: packrat35

FWIW... If it was pre-2005 then it’s all new people. AT&T was bought out by Cingular. Which then was rebranded by AT&T when they bought BellSouth.


43 posted on 07/03/2007 9:09:49 PM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: Redbob
whining about iphones is, I suppose, a measure of the strength of our society

Chill, bro.

We took down Shamnesty last week, against all odds and with a huge amount of work.

44 posted on 07/03/2007 9:11:09 PM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor
Would any phone company have been able to handle half a million activations in one day.

I handled one and was more impressed than I thought I would be. When they add laptop tethering and drop the price $100 I would be very tempted.
45 posted on 07/03/2007 9:11:48 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: ByDesign

Not till 2009. AT&T exclusive till then.


46 posted on 07/03/2007 9:12:12 PM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: angkor
I'm not anti-Apple, I'm just baffled that Jobs went with AT&T, which has a worse customer service rep than even Sprint. Sprint!!

Apple's original preference was for Verizon... but they refused to make any changes in the voice mail. Essentially, if Apple had gone with them, one of the major improvements would have been missing. Cingular was willing to allow Apple to modify their servers to handle visual voice mail service. Ergo, they got the nod.

47 posted on 07/03/2007 9:12:14 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: Bogey78O; ByDesign
Not till 2009. AT&T exclusive till then.

Actually, the Apple and AT&T agreement is a five year exclusive contract for iPhones in the US.

48 posted on 07/03/2007 9:14:09 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: Swordmaker

Ok, I heard 2 but I’ll admit I am only slightly alert to the AT&T/iPhone details.


49 posted on 07/03/2007 9:15:18 PM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: packrat35
Absolute worst customer service I ever had.

Amen. I swore off of AT&T years ago. When they bought out Cingular I vowed to change service next time my contract is up. Hate 'em!

50 posted on 07/03/2007 9:18:51 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (To make a conservative angry, lie to them. To make a liberal angry, tell them the truth.)
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To: kingu
meld the US and German versions together to permit using it on the US T-Mobile networks.

That'd be good. T-Mobile has excellent customer service and billing. I've been with them for 5 years now.

Verizon's also decent but CDMA. Sprint.... is a demonic force on the planet. AT&T/Cingular gave me their normal phone-bounce treatment last year when I was trying to get some answers about a deal they had.

I finally gave up all too much wasted time on hold, and then reading all too many negative reviews about them.

Not sure I'd buy an iPhone on its merits, but there's no way I'd go two years with AT&T.

51 posted on 07/03/2007 9:33:03 PM PDT by angkor
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To: mylife
Who in the hell pays $700-1K for a phone and 1.5k a year for service anyway?

Alpha nerds.

52 posted on 07/03/2007 9:36:06 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: aruanan
Sounds like the problem was with AT&T, not Apple. They should have gone with Sprint.

Sprint and Verizon aren't GSM networks. Sprint's billing service is torturous.

Who knows why they didn't go with T-Mobile. They're GSM, they have ace #1 customer service, and a decent customer base in the US *and* Europe. They probably would have cut Apple a better deal too.

53 posted on 07/03/2007 9:39:32 PM PDT by angkor
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To: claudiustg

That guy needs to hear one of my Dad’s speeches of living during the great depression.


54 posted on 07/03/2007 9:48:22 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: angkor

Anytime somebody is hyped up to god stature in the media, watch out for the fall.


55 posted on 07/03/2007 9:49:28 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: babyfreep
I was going to go with AT&T, but not so sure after reading all of this.

Do your research and read some other reviews like on cnet and PC Mag, etc. Also Google for JD Power and look at their cell company ratings.

I also had VoiceStream until I went on business to Richmond VA and discovered VS had *no* coverege there at all (Richmond is the capitol of Virginia).

Switched back to Verizon with my old StarTac (I'd been with them before), and then hated it when I went abroad for a few months and had to rent a Vodaphone GSM setup for emergencies and business calls.

Came back and looked at U.S GSM providers, and since T-Mobile had lit up Richmond by that time (and other improvements) I went back to them and have stayed there since.

In 2005 I was again overseas and came very close to buying a GlobalStar sat phone. That's the best solution of all.

56 posted on 07/03/2007 9:59:30 PM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor

I’ll take your advice, thanks. I had no other complaints except for the coverage. The phones they carry are the same or comparable to other companies’ so that’s never really been an issue. I’ll find something I like no matter which service I use.
I’m sure it’ll be difficult for the other companies to compete with the iPhone except that I would guess that other plans/rates/phones will go down in price. Already saw a few advertised specials.


57 posted on 07/03/2007 10:08:38 PM PDT by babyfreep
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To: angkor
Who knows why they didn't go with T-Mobile. They're GSM, they have ace #1 customer service, and a decent customer base in the US *and* Europe. They probably would have cut Apple a better deal too.

Two reasons: 1) T-Mobile was already contracted to roll out the Wing in the US, and they wanted the iPhone to wait until August, and 2) T-Mobile wanted a discount for their customers, least that's what I've heard rumors of. If this is true or not, well, who knows.
58 posted on 07/03/2007 10:15:06 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
We heard those speeches of “Living during the Depression”!
We finally found a simple cell phone for our parents, (in their 80’s); Have you heard of the new “Jitter Bug”? You can find it at Jitterbug.com
Great for kids & seniors, large keys for vision impaired, no frills. Several plans, we chose the $10 a month as they won’t use it for anything but emergencies. We like Verizon too.
59 posted on 07/03/2007 10:24:56 PM PDT by Walkenfree ("Aspire to Inspire before you expire")
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To: angkor

I havae one. No problems activating less than 3 minutes.

Happy fourth all you freepers.


60 posted on 07/03/2007 10:25:40 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Amnesty is when you allow them to return to their country of origin without prosecution.take the get)
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