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Global warming blamed for vanishing lake (southern Chile)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/3/07 | Eduardo Gallardo - ap

Posted on 07/03/2007 5:26:41 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SANTIAGO, Chile - Scientists on Tuesday blamed global warming for the disappearance of a glacial lake in remote southern Chile that faded away in just two months, leaving just a crater behind.

The disappearance of the lake in Bernardo O'Higgins National Park was discovered in late May by park rangers, who were stunned to find a 130-foot deep crater where a large lake had been.

After flying over the lake Monday scientists said they were able to draw preliminary conclusions that point to climate change as the leading culprit for the lake's disappearance.

They suggested the melting of nearby glaciers raised the lake's level to the point where the increased water pressure caused part of a glacier acting as a dam to give way. Water in the lake flowed out of the breach, into a nearby fiord and then to the sea, said Andres Rivera, a glaciologist with Chile's Center of Scientific Studies.

Rivera, accompanied by an expert from the Chilean Antarctic Institute, flew over the site in a navy airplane, taking hundreds of photographs.

"On one side of the Bernardo glacier one can see a large hole or gap, and we believe that's where the water flowed through," Rivera said in a navy communique. "This confirms that glaciers in the region are retreating and getting thinner."

He said that the bottom of the vanished lake again has some water, likely from the melting ice.

Similar phenomenon have occurred before in the southern Magallanes region.

As glaciers retreat lakes form behind natural dams of ice or moraine, earth and stones pushed up by a glacier. Those relatively weak dams can be breached suddenly, causing the lake to drain.

The advance and retreat of glaciers is part of the normal dynamics of the Patagonia but climate change was distorting the process, Rivera said.

"This would not be happening if the temperature had not increased," Rivera said.

The navy communique said the missing lake was the smaller of a two-lake system. The larger one remains but at a lower level.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: blamed; chile; climatechange; environment; globalwarming; lake; vanishing

This picture taken from a Chilean navy Monday, July 2, 2007, shows large pieces of ice and some areas with water at the bottom of a lake in southern Chile that was discovered dried up late may. Experts believe water flowed to a nearby fiord through a hole in a glacier at the northern end of the lake. (AP Photo/HO/Chile Navy)


1 posted on 07/03/2007 5:26:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
After flying over the lake Monday scientists said they were able to draw preliminary conclusions that point to climate change as the leading culprit for the lake's disappearance.

And the did it from a plane. Imagine that.
2 posted on 07/03/2007 5:28:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Similar phenomenon have occurred before in the southern Magallanes region.

But they couldn't blame us eeeeeeeeeevil American conservatives before.

3 posted on 07/03/2007 5:29:06 PM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Lawrence Solomon's "The Deniers" (a series of articles on the view of scientists who have been labelled "Global Warming Deniers"):

Other References:


4 posted on 07/03/2007 5:29:13 PM PDT by sourcery (Anthropogenic Global Warming: A convenient lie designed to establish socialism by fear and deception)
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fwiw.. stumbled across this in search.. from 2003 or so

Glaciers In Retreat a Recurring Theme from around the Globe

http://www.nichols.edu/DEPARTMENTS/PHYSICALWORLD/glacier_retreat.htm


5 posted on 07/03/2007 5:29:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Image hosted by Photobucket.com i think they found it in Texas...
6 posted on 07/03/2007 5:47:56 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: NormsRevenge

I blame my speeding on “global warming.”


7 posted on 07/03/2007 5:50:27 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: NormsRevenge

“They suggested the melting of nearby glaciers raised the lake’s level to the point where the increased water pressure caused part of a glacier acting as a dam to give way.”

Now, that’s some creative reasoning, there.


8 posted on 07/03/2007 5:54:27 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: NormsRevenge
After flying over the lake Monday scientists said they were able to draw preliminary conclusions that point to climate change as the leading culprit for the lake's disappearance.

Now there is a sentence with a lot of wiggle room. Preliminary conclusions that point to a leading culprit. No less than 3 non-conclusions, and yet the headlines states the conclusion as unequivocal. This is why the world is going to hell in a handbasket: Humans are basically only a few centuries out of the wild, yet they are expected to be able to handle the level of thought that is required by modern technology.

9 posted on 07/03/2007 6:11:44 PM PDT by webheart
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To: NormsRevenge

Morons. This has happened before. The only thing it has to do with “global warming” is that this is the current religion of the marxists.


10 posted on 07/03/2007 6:42:45 PM PDT by 43north (I hope we are around long enough to become a layer in the rocks of the future.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Here we have the "Drive-By-Media" quoting the "Fly-Over Scientists"....whose living depends on discovering more evidence of man-made global warming.

Who could possibly doubt them? /sarc

11 posted on 07/03/2007 6:48:59 PM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: NormsRevenge
...the increased water pressure caused part of a glacier acting as a dam to give way.

The glacier probably didn't so much "give way" as float on top of the lake water once the water depth got to 90% of the height of the ice, just like Glacial Lake Missoula. At that point, the water flows out under the ice.

12 posted on 07/03/2007 7:03:30 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Crap. The one time I don't test the link while "previewing".

Corrected link.

13 posted on 07/03/2007 7:05:01 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 43north

Similar phenomenon have occurred before in the southern Magallanes region.

“This would not be happening if the temperature had not increased,” Rivera said
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Makes you kind of wonder why it happened before doesnt it?

Did it warm up before too?


14 posted on 07/03/2007 7:05:39 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (http://www.imwithfred.com/index.aspx)
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To: Chode

lol...it had to go somewhere, sadly for the folks in Texas. Of course, most are just mad that they may not be able to BBQ tomorrrow.


15 posted on 07/03/2007 7:11:42 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: NormsRevenge
“Experts believe water flowed to a nearby fiord through a hole in a glacier at the northern end of the lake.”

There you go. The water is now in a fjord at the Northern end of the lake.

16 posted on 07/03/2007 7:18:27 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: webheart

To quote the great Pat J. Buchanan, “Well said and exactly right.”


17 posted on 07/03/2007 7:34:23 PM PDT by Disciplinemisanthropy (Dog Kills Cat, Self)
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To: NormsRevenge
...who were stunned to find a 130-foot deep crater where a large lake had been...it would seem the glaciers would have had to have been melting for decades to form a lake 130 feet deep - they may be able to invent a case that global warming caused the lake, but not that the warming is recent enough to have been brought on by evil humans and their terrible machines..........
18 posted on 07/03/2007 9:08:50 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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