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To: khnyny

In the year 732, for a little perspective:

The Battle of Tours, also called Battle of Poitiers (October 732), victory won by Charles Martel, the de facto ruler of the Frankish kingdoms, over Muslim invaders from Spain. The battlefield cannot be exactly located, but it was fought somewhere between Tours and Poitiers, in what is now west-central France.

‘Abd-ar-Rahman, the Muslim governor of Córdoba, had invaded Aquitaine (present southwestern France) and defeated its duke, Eudes. Eudes appealed for help to Charles, who stationed his forces to defend the city of Tours from the northward progress of the Muslims. According to tradition, the Muslim cavalry attacks broke upon Charles’s massed infantry, and after ‘Abd-ar-Rahman was killed in the fighting, the Arabs retired southward. There were no further Muslim invasions of Frankish territory, and Charles’s victory has often been regarded as decisive for world history, since it preserved western Europe from Muslim conquest and Islamization. The victory also served to consolidate Charles’s leadership of the Franks, and he was able to assert his authority in Aquitaine, where Eudes swore allegiance to him.

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9060566/Battle-of-Tours

As a point of additional interest, Ar Rahman was what Muhammad called God in his early Quran verses quoted in Mecca. Most English translations substitute Allah in those verses. Ar Rahman was the name for God used by a pagan tribe in Yemen. When He moved to Medina he started using the name Allah, which was the name of a black rock idol in Mecca.


4 posted on 07/03/2007 4:58:39 PM PDT by OK
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5 posted on 07/03/2007 5:00:42 PM PDT by hardback
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To: OK
...a black rock idol...


9 posted on 07/03/2007 5:32:20 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: OK

Cool. Thanks for the link.


12 posted on 07/03/2007 5:44:57 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: OK
"Allah" was also the name Arabic and Aramaic Christians used for "God".

They still do.

Remember, history didn't begin in Mecca ~ not for Christians anyway, so don't let Mo steal our language from you.

17 posted on 07/03/2007 6:50:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: OK

Very interesting stuff. Yes, a lot of people don’t know that Charles Martel saved Europe. The Moors were eventually driven out of Spain too, but that’s another story.:)


30 posted on 07/04/2007 7:32:17 AM PDT by khnyny
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