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To: cripplecreek
Well...I sure don't want to get into it with you...or have some posse come down on me...but I have a problem with these two border agents...and intellectually dishonest fans of same.

Now...if somebody could show me substantiated proof that these two yo-yos:

1) KNEW ( not suspected) he was a drug smuggler when they shot him for running away.
2) KNEW about the drug loaded van as they confronted him.

Because THAT'S why President Bush hasn't intervened in the case.

Peoples' overall prejudiced view of border jumpers has clouded their judgment, IMHO.

19 posted on 07/03/2007 3:12:57 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot

Or maybe it’s your fetish for illegal aliens that makes you glad those two border patrol agents are in jail?


20 posted on 07/03/2007 3:20:10 PM PDT by NapkinUser ("The House will pass S1348 and the president will sign it into law. It's a done deal." -B. Chezwick)
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To: DCPatriot
1) KNEW ( not suspected) he was a drug smuggler when they shot him for running away. 2) KNEW about the drug loaded van as they confronted him.

Considering that the drug smuggler Aldrete tried to evade arrest, attempted to assault Compean and then tried to shoot at the agents, they didn't have to "know" that he was a drug smuggler or had drugs.

27 posted on 07/03/2007 4:10:24 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: DCPatriot; Toadman; SittinYonder
Read further into the circumstances surrounding the case and you'll find that the dealer, Aldrete-Davila, was given immunity to testify against the agents after receiving free medical treatment for his buttocks wound from Army physicians (on our side of the border). As soon as he was up and around he was caught with another load of smuggled drugs - yet no prosecution for HIS crimes are on Sutton's agenda.

There's also the persistent story that Aldrete-Davila's mother or mother-in-law notified relative, Christopher Sanchez in our Department of Homeland Security to complain about his treatment by the former Border Patrolmen (after all, he was only smuggling the drugs we citizens are too lazy to smuggle). Sanchez apparently ferried Aldrete-Davila for treatment, gave him refuge in his home and managed to lose the extracted round...ALL of which was redacted from official reports.

If these curious circumstances aren't enough reason to reopen the investigation perhaps you'll find the following report reason enough to do so:

"Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila had been a member of the Vincete Carrillo-Fuentes Cartel, which had been aligned with the Mexicali Cartel before its demise in 2004. He also said that as a member of this vicious gang, Davila had participated in “The House of Death” in Cuidad Juarez, Mexico. The massacre, according to my source, resulted in the torture deaths of 30 people. The massacre was brought to light by Guillermo Ramirez Peyro, a former Mexican policeman who as it turned out was a ICE informant on the U.S. payroll. This prompted the DEA’s El Paso Field office chief, Sandalio Gonzalez to write a letter to his counterpart, Juanita Fielden at ICE complaining about the use of informants who are actively involved in House of Death murders. A copy of this letter was delivered to Fielden’s boss, U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton. This resulted in a cover-up, which was exposed by Michele Leonhart, the deputy administrator of the DEA."

While Ramos and Compean made procedural mistakes that may have warranted dismissal from service I sincerely believe that they don't deserve imprisonment with the sort of illegal aliens they were sworn to protect us from. If the above information is investigated and confirmed these agents place in prison will be filled by Sutton, Sanchez and other corrupt officials. Go, Tom, go!

34 posted on 07/03/2007 5:06:40 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (No, I'm NOT "Rome2000")
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To: DCPatriot

I believe W. is considering pardoning the Border Patrolmen. He said something on Lou Dobbs today that made me think that. Duncan Hunter was also on Lou Dobbs right after the president on the same subject. That the drug dealer was offered immunity for his testimony against the BPs stinks to high heaven.


52 posted on 07/03/2007 6:25:07 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: DCPatriot
“1) KNEW ( not suspected) he was a drug smuggler when they shot him for running away.
2) KNEW about the drug loaded van as they confronted him.
Because THAT’S why President Bush hasn’t intervened in the case.”

1.) Sutton said that he was running away from the van & admitted he was busted again after that on the Glen Beck show.

2.) Pres. Bush HAS intervened in this case & a few other cases like it on behalf of his Buddy's in Mexico. There is a clear pattern in many cases such a R&C, Hernandez, and Sipe to name a few. The pattern goes something like this, LE Agent stops illegal & uses force, Mexico phones White House & WH Sics Sutton & Chertoff on LE Agents & with holds evidence from jury. Sends message to Mexico & LE Agents that status quo is in tact.

71 posted on 07/04/2007 1:07:49 AM PDT by Rottweilerson (If you want a friend...Feed any animal.)
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