Posted on 07/03/2007 5:39:57 AM PDT by Quilla
1. WMD did indeed exist inside Iraq before the war.
2. The weapons inspectors were both fooled and bribed to ignore evidence.
3. Massive amounts of WMD were removed to known locations in Syria just prior to the war.
4. Massive numbers of Saddam's audio tapes and paper documents were collected and most remain unavailable and presumably un-translated.
5. U.S. officials refused to investigate a number of likely WMD sites.
6. The U.S. intelligence community, and other branches of this government, are stonewalling the issue.
"Now, it would be common to ask for the reason the Bush Administration has not revealed that WMDs are in Syria and/or Lebanon. According to Israeli intelligence sources, it is likely because exposure of that would lead to a domino effect where evidence would leak out that Iraq's programs had roles played by Egypt, Syria, Libya and Saudi Arabia. [plus the French, Germans and Russians] Such leaks will enflame the region and especially Iraq, and make things much harder, resulting in a more bloody and costly war and diminishing likelihood that other countries would send forces in.[71] Additionally, people would be skeptic, saying it was a lie so that the war-mongering neo-cons were trying to justify a new conquest. The other side would put enormous pressure to bring the war to Syria-a war we are not yet ready to fight."
Reviewer 1: In General Sada's unique position, he was able to observe some of the worst of Saddam's behavior and trickery and confirms in this book not only the existence of weapons of mass destruction (WMD), but also the extraordinary lengths that Saddam went to hide these weapons....
Reviewer 2: The author tells how Saddam managed to trick the world into believing he did not have weapons of mass destruction. He goes into detail how Saddam managed to hide all evidence of WMD's and how he managed to move all of them out of Iraq under the noses of the United Nations weapons inspectors. ....
Reviewer 3: Of particular note are tapes of more than 3,000 hours of Saddam Hussein meeting with his war cabinet and millions of pages of documents that contain vital information about Saddam's WMD program and plans for transporting the WMDs out of the country in order to dupe the weapons inspectors.... American and world citizens must demand that these tapes and documents be immediately released, translated, and analyzed in their entirety.
"On February 16, President George W. Bush assembled a small group of congressional Republicans for a briefing on Iraq." Representative Mike Pence said to President Bush, "There are 3,000 hours of Saddam tapes and millions of pages of other documents that we captured after the war. When will the American public get to see this information?"
"Bush replied that he wanted the documents released. He turned to [National Security Advisor Stephen] Hadley and asked for an update. Hadley explained that John Negroponte, Bush's Director of National Intelligence, "owns the documents" and that DNI lawyers were deciding how they might be handled.
"Bush told Hadley to expedite the release of the Iraq documents. "This stuff ought to be out. Put this stuff out." The president would reiterate this point before the meeting adjourned. .....
"Negroponte never got the message. Or he is choosing to ignore it. He has done nothing to expedite the exploitation of the documents. And he continues to block the growing congressional effort, led by [Rep. Pete] Hoekstra, [the Michigan Republican who chairs the House Intelligence Committee] to have the documents released.
"It's a fair bet that you have never heard of a guy called Dave Gaubatz. It's also a fair bet that you think the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq has found absolutely nothing, nada, zilch; and that therefore there never were any WMD programmers in Saddam's Iraq to justify the war ostensibly waged to protect the world from Saddam's use of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons."
"Dave Gaubatz, however, says you could not be more wrong. Saddam's WMD did exist. He should know because he found the sites where he is certain they were stored. And the reason you don't know about this is that the American administration failed to act on his information, lost' his classified reports and is now doing everything it can to prevent disclosure of the terrible fact that, through its own incompetence, it allowed Saddam's WMD to end up in the hands of the very terrorist states against whom it is so controversially at war."
"After helping to lead the Soviet Union's germ-weapons program, Ken Alibek defected to the United States and began warning about the threat of a mass-casualty biological attack. Alibek also has sought to profit from the fear of such weapons of mass destruction, landing federal contracts or grants totaling about $28 million."
“Despite what you write, WMD’s were found in Iraq, not in the quantities that were toted as proof of a looming threat,”
It has not been released the quantities found. Only the tip of the iceburg, I assure you.
This ship has sailed.
PING!
Oh I’m sorry, I actually have a life away from the computer. I didn’t know you were still here.
Far from it for me to expect you to be here 24/7... but reading what your responding to would be a welcome change.
Where are the WMDs, then? Why did the President allow this farce that the media has foisted that there were no WMDs? Is it blackmail by Iran and Syria? Why haven’t we responded directly to Iran’s insertion of terrorists in country that have killed our soldiers?
BUMP!
How many times do I have to point out that I am not legally permitted to speak on behalf of the US Government?
Feel like watching?
Was it better to fool Saddam into stashing his WMD so that they could not be used on our troops or would it have better to catch Saddam red handed by allowing him to inflict casualties with them?
Would it be better to brag about finding WMD in order to score political points or to tell the enemy that there are no WMD’s to be found in Iraq?
I understand. So, apparently the President chose allow his credibility to be undermined for some higher purpose. Unfortunately, it is making our addressing the Iranian problem very problematic, as any intelligence is immediately questioned as faulty. As well, if we can’t address Iran as a sponsor of terror, making Iraq ultimately safe will be extremely difficult, if not impossible. Thanks anyway, thank you for your service, and stay safe.
IMO, he’s either waiting for an oportune moment to release the findings, or is waiting to uncover as much as possible before making a wide-spread claim of finding such devices.
They may be hoping (or have intel suggesting) that those who are charged with hiding the last remants of the devices may not have the means to effectively communicate with each other. They live in silent seperation from each other.
This would feed well into the paranoia Saddam was known to have.
In short, a media broadcast would give the bad guys a heads up that they would otherwise not have.
Again, just IMO.
I have known Mac for half of my life, we've grown up together, and I call him an uncle to my daughter. I trust him with what he has to say or can't say yet, as much as I honor him being over there in the arena and keeping us safe. So it's really upsetting that you would act in such a condescending manner when speaking with him.
If you can't add anything constructive to the convo, by all means, keep sputtering nonsense, just don't mind if I ignore you, eh?
We seem to be on the track, in Iraq, of a Viet Nam type war where neighboring states are supplying the insurgents in-country. I do not wish for a minute that some sufficient number of our soldiers become casualties before political correctness allows us to react. We’ve done this dance 40 years ago. The WMD lie that the media has perpetrated is now getting our soldiers killed, as it is tying the hands of the Administration and therefore the military in its ability to react to Iran. I wish some Conservative talking head would address this issue.
I also don't care which facet of the one party system we currently have said what about them either. They were not involved with 9/11 so therefore they had not attacked our borders. Now if they had attacked our borders, declare war properly, and wipe them off the face of the map. Too much pussyfooting around with PC tactics if you ask me. Course that's what you get when you don't officially declare war.
But no, I do not believe the WMDs were not 'shipped to Syrian deserts' or hidden elsewhere. The simplest answer is that if you can't find something it doesn't exist. To ask me to prove a negative (that they were destroyed) is futile. You make the positive argument (that they existed at the time of invasion) so the burden is upon you to prove said argument. Otherwise, that's like saying everyone is guilty of murder unless proven not to be so.
I trust him with what he has to say or can't say yet,
Well that's where we're different. I don't trust anyone except God and family (and even then not all of them). I have no reason to disrespect or dislike Mac as I don't even know him. You're probably two personable guys that seriously believe what you believe. But I also have no reason to take what he says as gospel because he, you, or anyone else says so.
Well whoop-de-doo... You believe your people, but not mine.
I have a first hand account, you do not.
You might as well tell me that Canada doesn’t exist for the simple matter that you have not been there (this is not me asserting something in your life, this is what is called “an example”. I’m sure it’s safer to say “Kenya”.)
You assert you have no faith in another’s first-hand accounts. Fine. Guess that pretty much excludes the Bible from you “must-read” list.
Your only arguement thus far is an absense of you personally falling into a hole in the middle of Iraq with a live nuclear warhead!
You know what? Go to Hell! You can’t even take a fellow man’s word? Fine! Hope you remember your assertions about “first hand accounts” that first day your child comes home from a fight.
In your logic, you’d have the child taken to the doctor to fix his “balance problem” despite the kid telling you otherwise!
If all you have is skepticism, I say to you, have a good life.
MacDorcha, Out.
In my opinion and based on three particular documents that I read; I think that these precursors required to build the Chemical Weapons are hidden in the Anbar province. The documents even name the locations where these precusors are possibly buried.
To protect classified information from the enemy, I wonder if the administration would ever report findings, even if a wmd cache was, or ever in the future is, uncovered?
We already know there were WMD in Iraq. I think I recall that when it was made known approx. a year ago, the libs decided that the number wasn’t large enough to be credible. Fact is, no matter how many were found, whether 5 or 5 million, they’d have found some way to dismiss it.
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