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Don't Be So Sure There Were No WMD in Iraq
The American Thinker ^ | July 3, 2007 | Rachel Neuwirth

Posted on 07/03/2007 5:39:57 AM PDT by Quilla

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To: Kerretarded

“Despite what you write, WMD’s were found in Iraq, not in the quantities that were toted as proof of a looming threat,”

It has not been released the quantities found. Only the tip of the iceburg, I assure you.


81 posted on 07/03/2007 10:34:22 AM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: Quilla

This ship has sailed.


82 posted on 07/03/2007 10:35:13 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: ravingnutter

PING!


83 posted on 07/03/2007 10:39:17 AM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: billbears

Oh I’m sorry, I actually have a life away from the computer. I didn’t know you were still here.


BTW, the question this refers to was stated several minutes after this post. The post I am responding to NOW was written 7 minutes after my last post to you.

Far from it for me to expect you to be here 24/7... but reading what your responding to would be a welcome change.


84 posted on 07/03/2007 10:42:45 AM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: MacDorcha

Where are the WMDs, then? Why did the President allow this farce that the media has foisted that there were no WMDs? Is it blackmail by Iran and Syria? Why haven’t we responded directly to Iran’s insertion of terrorists in country that have killed our soldiers?


85 posted on 07/03/2007 10:50:26 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy (This Space Available for Rent)
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To: Quilla

BUMP!


86 posted on 07/03/2007 10:56:41 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

How many times do I have to point out that I am not legally permitted to speak on behalf of the US Government?


87 posted on 07/03/2007 11:08:10 AM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: All

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQKxAqpjroo

Just comes to mind...


88 posted on 07/03/2007 11:09:17 AM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: EarthBound

Feel like watching?


89 posted on 07/03/2007 11:12:14 AM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: Quilla

Was it better to fool Saddam into stashing his WMD so that they could not be used on our troops or would it have better to catch Saddam red handed by allowing him to inflict casualties with them?

Would it be better to brag about finding WMD in order to score political points or to tell the enemy that there are no WMD’s to be found in Iraq?


90 posted on 07/03/2007 11:23:01 AM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (JFK, RMN and GWB all fought the CIA and lost.)
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To: MacDorcha

I understand. So, apparently the President chose allow his credibility to be undermined for some higher purpose. Unfortunately, it is making our addressing the Iranian problem very problematic, as any intelligence is immediately questioned as faulty. As well, if we can’t address Iran as a sponsor of terror, making Iraq ultimately safe will be extremely difficult, if not impossible. Thanks anyway, thank you for your service, and stay safe.


91 posted on 07/03/2007 12:03:52 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy (This Space Available for Rent)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

IMO, he’s either waiting for an oportune moment to release the findings, or is waiting to uncover as much as possible before making a wide-spread claim of finding such devices.

They may be hoping (or have intel suggesting) that those who are charged with hiding the last remants of the devices may not have the means to effectively communicate with each other. They live in silent seperation from each other.

This would feed well into the paranoia Saddam was known to have.

In short, a media broadcast would give the bad guys a heads up that they would otherwise not have.

Again, just IMO.


92 posted on 07/03/2007 12:12:28 PM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: billbears; MacDorcha
Bill, come on man. You can't be so dim as to believe that there are no WMDs, or that there never were any, or that they haven't been hidden, stolen, or are still being looked into. The thousands of cannisters of chemical and biological agents, and the yellow cake should've convinced you otherwise if so. We gave Sodamn plenty of time to hide or dispose of them.

I have known Mac for half of my life, we've grown up together, and I call him an uncle to my daughter. I trust him with what he has to say or can't say yet, as much as I honor him being over there in the arena and keeping us safe. So it's really upsetting that you would act in such a condescending manner when speaking with him.

If you can't add anything constructive to the convo, by all means, keep sputtering nonsense, just don't mind if I ignore you, eh?

93 posted on 07/03/2007 12:19:51 PM PDT by EarthBound (Ex Deo,gratia. Ex astris,scientia (Duncan Hunter in 2008! http://www.gohunter08.com))
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To: MacDorcha

We seem to be on the track, in Iraq, of a Viet Nam type war where neighboring states are supplying the insurgents in-country. I do not wish for a minute that some sufficient number of our soldiers become casualties before political correctness allows us to react. We’ve done this dance 40 years ago. The WMD lie that the media has perpetrated is now getting our soldiers killed, as it is tying the hands of the Administration and therefore the military in its ability to react to Iran. I wish some Conservative talking head would address this issue.


94 posted on 07/03/2007 12:31:59 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy (This Space Available for Rent)
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To: EarthBound; MacDorcha
There is no evidence that us peons know that Iraq represented to our borders with WMDs or otherwise. Did they exist? Well of course they did. Killed a lot of Kurds with them (course I imagine that image of 'Rummy' shaking hands with Hussein around the same time was photoshopped too right?). Did they exist after 1995? Don't know, don't care. Didn't represent a threat to our borders.

I also don't care which facet of the one party system we currently have said what about them either. They were not involved with 9/11 so therefore they had not attacked our borders. Now if they had attacked our borders, declare war properly, and wipe them off the face of the map. Too much pussyfooting around with PC tactics if you ask me. Course that's what you get when you don't officially declare war.

But no, I do not believe the WMDs were not 'shipped to Syrian deserts' or hidden elsewhere. The simplest answer is that if you can't find something it doesn't exist. To ask me to prove a negative (that they were destroyed) is futile. You make the positive argument (that they existed at the time of invasion) so the burden is upon you to prove said argument. Otherwise, that's like saying everyone is guilty of murder unless proven not to be so.

I trust him with what he has to say or can't say yet,

Well that's where we're different. I don't trust anyone except God and family (and even then not all of them). I have no reason to disrespect or dislike Mac as I don't even know him. You're probably two personable guys that seriously believe what you believe. But I also have no reason to take what he says as gospel because he, you, or anyone else says so.

95 posted on 07/03/2007 12:53:57 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears

Well whoop-de-doo... You believe your people, but not mine.

I have a first hand account, you do not.

You might as well tell me that Canada doesn’t exist for the simple matter that you have not been there (this is not me asserting something in your life, this is what is called “an example”. I’m sure it’s safer to say “Kenya”.)

You assert you have no faith in another’s first-hand accounts. Fine. Guess that pretty much excludes the Bible from you “must-read” list.

Your only arguement thus far is an absense of you personally falling into a hole in the middle of Iraq with a live nuclear warhead!

You know what? Go to Hell! You can’t even take a fellow man’s word? Fine! Hope you remember your assertions about “first hand accounts” that first day your child comes home from a fight.

In your logic, you’d have the child taken to the doctor to fix his “balance problem” despite the kid telling you otherwise!

If all you have is skepticism, I say to you, have a good life.

MacDorcha, Out.


96 posted on 07/03/2007 1:21:54 PM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: billbears; MacDorcha
"I have no reason to disrespect or dislike Mac as I don't even know him. You're probably two personable guys that seriously believe what you believe. But I also have no reason to take what he says as gospel because he, you, or anyone else says so."

No one is compelling you to believe anything. You are entirely free to believe whatever you want, but you do nothing to bolster your case when you disrespect others (and yes, you are disrespecting MacDorcha with your snarky retorts).
97 posted on 07/03/2007 1:22:51 PM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: PGalt; Quilla; All
After reading over 3000 Iraqi documents I concluded that Saddam regime opted to produce the basic materials, also called Precursors, required to build Chemical Weapons rather than Chemical weapons itself first because they can always claim it is dual use material, i.e. used for civilian industries, second because it will last for longer time in storage than the final Chemical weapon product.

In my opinion and based on three particular documents that I read; I think that these precursors required to build the Chemical Weapons are hidden in the Anbar province. The documents even name the locations where these precusors are possibly buried.

98 posted on 07/03/2007 1:46:27 PM PDT by jveritas (Support the Commander in Chief in Times of War.)
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To: Quilla

To protect classified information from the enemy, I wonder if the administration would ever report findings, even if a wmd cache was, or ever in the future is, uncovered?


99 posted on 07/03/2007 1:48:58 PM PDT by dotnetfellow
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To: Quilla

We already know there were WMD in Iraq. I think I recall that when it was made known approx. a year ago, the libs decided that the number wasn’t large enough to be credible. Fact is, no matter how many were found, whether 5 or 5 million, they’d have found some way to dismiss it.


100 posted on 07/03/2007 1:49:40 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (You can lead a liberal to talk radio, but you can't make him think.)
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