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To: Huck
I don't know the protocol, but this guy Murphy was their commander. Isn't the bad decision HIS? If they voted on it, it's because HE let them vote on it, isn't it? Why give a medal to the guy who made the mistake?

Are you Fking kidding me!?! - There was no mistake made in terms of doing what was "right" - It was simply by doing such it put these men at much greater risk - A risk they took - A decision they came together as a TEAM (which is what being a SEAL is all about. Your TEAM). These men died for each other out there that day. Literally fought until their last breath for one another, after each being wounded multiple times.

These men were deep in Indian country (surrounded by some of the most evil SOBs this earth knows) on a highly classified Op

Lt. Murphy gave his life (knowingly put himself in position which would likely cost his life....Apprx 45/1hr into this hellish firefight in order to get a QRF on the scene in order to try and save his men).

You know absolutely nothing to even suggest such - Much less anything about SEAL doctrine and how they operate.

Furthermore killing these unarmed men was absolutely no guarantee of helping this SEAL RT (in the big picture looking back...nor for them specifically at that time in place). As when these goat herders didn't return or when it became obvious to those Taliban in the village that over a 100 goats were wandering haphazardly on the mountain face they would have been just as well alerted.

Why give a medal? You are a moron. These men voluntarily put themselves at such risk that 99.9999% would never even dream of doing (much less being capable of). Simply to ensure the safety of this nation.

In doing so they followed the ROEs that this Nation mandates on them (did so with honor) and fought with the skills, bravery, aggression and courage that most couldn't comprehend.

18 posted on 07/02/2007 4:50:12 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix
You know absolutely nothing

Take a prosac. I said I didn't know the protocol. While I was reading the article, I was wondering why this guy was taking on so much guilt when there was a commander there. Your rage aside, it's a fair question. I didn't mean offense.

20 posted on 07/02/2007 5:18:34 PM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: DevSix; Huck

Well said and heartfelt rant, I agree. Also handled the backwash with a lot of class, both of you.


26 posted on 07/02/2007 7:09:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: DevSix

Couldn’t agree more, Dev. Most civilians think our troops are a bunch of trigger-happy rejects, thanks ENTIRELY to the MSM.

If average Americans could see what the liberals conveniently omit, this war would be over in a New York minute and the MSM would never hold sway over us like they do today.

What do I blame this on? For starters, fewer and fewer of our adult population has ever served in the military, let alone in combat. They see it as a cross between some glorious noble deed and a bunch of murdering psychopaths.

Those SEALs did something I wouldn’t wish on anyone, but made a choice which separates us from the Islamists—they put the lives of those who might well betray them on a level higher than their own for that moment. They had a choice between life and death, and they chose life.

I’m done.


27 posted on 07/02/2007 7:15:47 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: DevSix
I agree. Lots of folks think they can kill a man. "think" is the operative word.

SEALs that I've met (besides looking great in sunglasses) are like rabid, well disciplined wolves when a member of their TEAM is attacked. They share everything and are like a fist, each member makes up the fist and makes it stronger.

I know that I would have killed the goat men. I think that it would only have bought them a little time because of the layout and the fact that there were hundreds of bad men wandering around a small area.

I'm not a "counseling" kind of guy, but I say this only as a prayer for hope. This man appears to be at risk to hurt himself. He has to put up with stupid questions in promoting this book by idiot reporters and confront the incident over and over again.

I hope that his family comforts and helps this man, and that a church or group reach out to help this man find the peace he deserves.

35 posted on 07/03/2007 1:58:26 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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