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As Senator Rose, Lobbying Became Family Affair
New York Times ^ | July2, 2007 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 07/01/2007 9:13:44 PM PDT by Politicalmom

WASHINGTON, June 29 — On Christmas Eve 1994, Fred D. Thompson Jr. was out of a job. A 34-year-old self-described late bloomer, Mr. Thompson had graduated from law school just two years before and practiced law only for his father, Fred D. Thompson Sr., who was about to be sworn in as a senator from Tennessee.

“I was out on the street, knocking on doors,” recalled the younger Mr. Thompson, who is known as Tony.

But attending Brentwood Methodist Church in Nashville that night, Tony Thompson ran into the departing incumbent senator, Harlan Mathews, a Democrat. Mr. Mathews invited Tony to join him in a Nashville lobbying business, a job that would let him capitalize on his father’s new position.

“I don’t just believe in the tooth fairy,” Mr. Mathews said. “A lot of people were seeking access — not necessarily unfair access, but seeking access — so Tony was employed in a number of areas where his father had made a reputation or his father’s advice or whatever was going to be valuable one of these days.”

Now the elder Mr. Thompson, who also worked as a lobbyist before and after his eight years in the Senate, is aiming for an even higher post, preparing a run for the Republican presidential nomination. In the folksy drawl that built him a lucrative sideline as a screen actor, Mr. Thompson is presenting himself as a reform-minded outsider taking on Washington, just as he did when he campaigned for the Senate as “Ol’ Fred” the “real live country lawyer,” and cruised Tennessee in a rented red pickup truck.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; fredthompson; lobbying; nyglbtt
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To: WOSG

i suppose chelsea received her six figure job out of school
due to all her fabulous work experience.
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21 posted on 07/02/2007 2:13:37 AM PDT by Buckhead
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To: donna

The Presidency makes them all rich... except poor ol’ U.S. Grant.


22 posted on 07/02/2007 2:31:49 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: elizabetty
"...The elder Mr. Thompson helped Daniel through his political action committee as well. In the last two elections, the committee paid Daniel Thompson more than $170,000 in consulting fees, compared with less than $70,000 it paid toward supporting Republican political campaigns...."

What did Daniel do for 170k of donor's money?

23 posted on 07/02/2007 2:57:13 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
What did Daniel do for 170k of donor's money?

IIRC, he was the PAC's lawyer, so that's the legal fees for all of the filing paperwork, etc., that's required just to have the PAC open.

24 posted on 07/02/2007 3:56:07 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Government is too important to leave up to the government" - Fred Dalton Thompson)
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To: shrinkermd

It looks like the Times messed with the dates, so they could say what they did in the last paragraph.

The actual facts on this came out months ago.

Mr. Thompson, of Tennessee, announced that he would not seek re-election to the Senate in 2002. But since then, his political action committee has paid $244,000 in “management/consulting fees” to his son’s consulting firm in Nashville, according to reports filed with the Federal Election Commission.

During the same period, the Fred D. Thompson PAC donated a total of $225,000 to Republican candidates and party organizations, according to the reports.

By contrast:

Mrs. Clinton’s HILLPAC has paid about $2 million in salaries since 2002, while contributing $2 million to Democratic candidates for office. Mr. Edwards’s PAC paid about $1 million in salaries while contributing $200,000 to Democrats when he used it during the 2002 and 2004 elections. Mr. Edwards primarily used his PAC to fund his political career, rather than to contribute to Democratic candidates. Mr. Obama, who only had a PAC for the 2006 election, paid about $500,000 in salaries and donated $770,000 to Democrats.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117712310290177718.html?mod=home_whats_news_us

Fred’s son was paid less than $50,000 per year to manage the PAC. His father’s PAC is not the only one managed by his firm. There is a great deal of legal expertise involved in running such a PAC, even if it doesn’t do much. From the prices I’ve heard thrown around about what it costs to run these things, it sounds like Fred got his son’s services cheaply.

There’s even a FR thread on this article from back then:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821336/posts?q=1&;page=1


25 posted on 07/02/2007 4:15:25 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (<---- is vacationing from gnats)
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To: Politicalmom
Oh no! Does this mean the New York Times arm of the DNC won't endorse Fred? Maybe they'll rehab Roger Clinton's image so folks won't worry about the fact he'll be back in the Lincoln bedroom in a Clinton administration ...



Can't wait!
26 posted on 07/02/2007 4:30:16 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

You mean he was paid 50K a year for writing a few checks. The Senator had left office. Come on. This is nepotism at the very least. One $ for my son and one for the Republicans. Remember, this money was given by many small investors to help the Senator get elected. They surely did not intend the money to go to his son.


27 posted on 07/02/2007 5:36:55 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: kevkrom
See post 27. This a failing of Fred Thompson. It is not politically fatal but must be included in any judgment of his ability to govern wisely and fairly.

The donor's who provided this money did not intend to subsidize nepotism.

28 posted on 07/02/2007 5:40:34 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

No, PACs need to be managed and they need someone qualified to do it. I don’t expect someone like you to look at this at all objectively, but this will blow up in the face of anyone who tries to exploit it.

What’s the matter? Your attacks over Fred’s lymphoma weren’t gaining enough traction, so you had to move to this? This won’t work any better, but thanks for playing.


29 posted on 07/02/2007 5:46:18 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (<---- is vacationing from gnats)
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To: shrinkermd
The PAC was still active, if dormant, even after he left office. This is not unusual.

The legal fees paid by the fact are also not unusual, and in fact are pretty small given the reporting and filing rules, probably because it wasn't very active. As posted in #25, the firm that Thompson's son worked for has experience with this type of work. It would be a different story, but still no scandal, if Thompson hired his son to do the job if his son's firm didn't already do that type of work.

Anyone who thinks this is a reason to think any less of Thompson is grasping at straws.

30 posted on 07/02/2007 5:49:54 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Government is too important to leave up to the government" - Fred Dalton Thompson)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Contrary to your view, each candidate must by the nature of the job have his pluses and minuses weighed carefully.

I bear Fred Thompson no animosity but his seeming claim to fame on FR and elsewhere is he is "pro-life." His senate career was not a distinguished one. He has no executive experience. These latter two characteristics mean we are going to count on his character. This means we are going to examine his previous conduct in office.

I repeat, this was a simple case of nepotism as one can find. Writing two or three checks could have closed out this PAC. Actually, these PACS should be abolished when a person leaves office and the money either returned or sent in toto to the a political party or a designated candidate.

31 posted on 07/02/2007 5:57:09 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: Politicalmom

I am reading this looking for Fred’s “deal killer” and thinking “this is it? THIS is their hit piece?”

I’m calling BFD on this one, pardon my French.


32 posted on 07/02/2007 6:03:37 AM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: Doofer

Fred himself has never said as such. He’s suggested he’s different than the pack, which is true.

He’s actually an inside-outsider. What that means is yeah, he’s been inside the beltway and is well connected. But, he’s never been “of” Washington in the sense that he’s always been a bit disgusted by the way things are done there.


33 posted on 07/02/2007 6:05:38 AM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: shrinkermd
What did Daniel do for 170k of donor's money?

The Fredphiles are going to give him a pass and say it is no big deal or that he "worked" for the campaign. They would not be so generous if Duncan Hunter or Hillary Clinton did exactly the same thing.

Perception is everything in politics.
34 posted on 07/02/2007 6:12:39 AM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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To: elizabetty
The Fredphiles are going to give him a pass and say it is no big deal or that he "worked" for the campaign. They would not be so generous if Duncan Hunter or Hillary Clinton did exactly the same thing.

Don't pretend you can speak for me or any other Thompson supporter. If Hunter hired his own son to work on his campaign (oh, wait... he did!), I'm not going to complain about it. Nor would I complain if Clinton does it either.

The expenditures are public, and if the family member is doing a legitimate job at a reasonable pay (compared to market averages), then what's there to complain about?

Let me put it to you this way... my brother-in-law is an accountant. When I need accounting work done, I go to him. Why? Because I know him, trust him, and I already know he's capable of doing the job.

35 posted on 07/02/2007 6:23:18 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Government is too important to leave up to the government" - Fred Dalton Thompson)
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To: Politicalmom

Oh you mean just like Dingy Harry Reid and his sons and son in law??? They have also all made millions through their corrupt daddy’s political connections.


36 posted on 07/02/2007 6:25:20 AM PDT by Buffettfan
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To: elizabetty
They would not be so generous if Duncan Hunter or Hillary Clinton did exactly the same thing.

What was it that was said about those in glass houses not throwing stones?

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/For_some_members_of_Congress_politics_0618.html

Several presidential candidates made it to CREW's list, including Reps. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.; Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio; and Ron Paul, R-Texas. Hunter and Paul each spent more than $100,000 in salaries and reimbursements to family members, while Kucinich paid his cousin more than $35,000 for campaign consulting and fundraising between 2002 and 2004.

37 posted on 07/02/2007 6:28:10 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: Politicalmom
OMG!!! The Times is against FDT....I may have to support R.Paul instead now. (sarc/)
39 posted on 07/02/2007 6:42:50 AM PDT by FlashBack (WoundedWarriorProject.Org)
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To: Politicalmom

Doesn’t Pelosi have a few lobbyists in the family? The Clintons have some interesting relations as well. I’m sure this is the first story in a series - the Times will cover all that at a later date, closer to the primaries.


40 posted on 07/02/2007 6:44:44 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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