1 posted on
07/01/2007 3:22:04 PM PDT by
hardback
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To: hardback; EternalVigilance; indcons; StopAmnestyNow; T.L.Sink; pissant
The defeat of this bill is a positive first step. More needs to be done, obviously, including patriots coming up with a proposal of their own. But this is a good beginning.
2 posted on
07/01/2007 3:24:49 PM PDT by
Clintonfatigued
(Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
To: hardback
All this is according to the ARIZONA RED STAR errrr.... DAILY STAR.
4 posted on
07/01/2007 3:27:28 PM PDT by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: hardback
Yes, it was a victory for the status quo, and there's nothing wrong with that. The fact is, the status quo, however bad, is still better than the bill. Sometimes we have to choose the lesser of two evils, and in this case, that would be the status quo.
Now that this horrible bill is dead, it is time to introduce an alternative. While it will be hard, I think there is now a historic opporunity to pass a good enforcement bill. The drubbing the "grand bargainers" took last week was so bad, and the American people's demand for enforcement so overwhelming, that there might be just enough GOP and blue dog legislators to get through an enforcement-only bill. Time will tell.
6 posted on
07/01/2007 3:35:11 PM PDT by
curiosity
To: hardback
Demand a border fence! Build it NOW!! Beef up the border patrol and close our borders!
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Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!
9 posted on
07/01/2007 3:43:04 PM PDT by
2ndDivisionVet
(Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
To: hardback
"How many more will die before Congress musters the courage to act on an immigration bill that includes a humane process for regulating the flow of foreign workers into the United States?" How do they intend to regulate what the RATs and a few RINOS + Bush wanted to entirely de-regulate ? The brain dead left never gets it and never will. As for the deaths of illegals trying to cross the hot desert in the summertime, here's a reminder: for every human act there is a consequence, and there are often bad consequences to risky acts.
To: hardback
"...this view holds that those here illegally are nothing more than criminals..." Well, duh?
To: hardback
Doncha just love the new refrain from the OBL? I’ve heard over and over the past few days that “the borders didn’t get any better” with the demise of the bill. No, they did not. But they didn’t get any worse, either, as they most assuredly would have had this travesty of an immigration bill passed.
I’ll take the status quo for now. It is many orders of magnitude better than amnesty.
To: hardback
Typical MSM elitism:
... Narrow-mindedness won the day. Anyone who sees this as a victory for America is living in a fantasyland.
Yeah, we all know communist reporters aren't narrow-minded and deal in reality every frickin' time. Face it, you got your ass handed to ya. Yes, your medium IS in decline, and there's nothing you can do about except whine some more.
15 posted on
07/01/2007 4:14:54 PM PDT by
Baladas
To: hardback
The center, as defined by countless polls says that the border should be locked down and illegals deported. The bill said that locking down the border should be looked at and illegals should be made legal.
So the fallacy of the editorial is that the center was represented at all.
16 posted on
07/01/2007 4:25:55 PM PDT by
kingu
(No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
To: hardback
Senate's failure to act will not make our borders any safer, or make the 12 million illegal residents go away
So they set up the straw man in the very first sentence. We killed a bad bill, period. Nobody said that killing it would make our borders safer or make the 12(-30)-million illegals go away.
To: hardback
The really sad thing is all of these editorials, etc, about the immigration legislation never discuss what was actually in the bill. They don’t talk about the fact that the bill really wasn’t totally written, wasn’t ready for prime time. They don’t talk about the way the bill was pushed with no hearings just vote yest and move along.
18 posted on
07/01/2007 4:32:20 PM PDT by
engrpat
To: hardback
By extension, this view holds that those here illegally are nothing more than criminalsToo funny - you need an 'extension' to veiw 'those here ilegally' as 'criminals'. They can't be serious, can they?
19 posted on
07/01/2007 4:39:45 PM PDT by
LearnsFromMistakes
(Member VRWC - Volvo-owning right-wing conspiracy)
To: hardback
See you at the bill signing. Well, maybe not...
21 posted on
07/01/2007 4:47:48 PM PDT by
George W. Bush
(Rudi: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
To: hardback
The only thing that sucks more than this immigration bill is a hooker on Saturday night when the fleets in town.
These people are just deluded.
23 posted on
07/01/2007 5:05:30 PM PDT by
packrat35
(Bush whither be thy brain)
To: hardback
"Conservative activists," Kyl said, have "a very firm view that the government is unable to get anything right." A wise and prudent view of government, in my opinion.
To: hardback
30 posted on
07/01/2007 5:50:27 PM PDT by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: hardback
In the 12 days that ended on Wednesday, 11 bodies were found in the desert between the Mexican border and Tucson. How many more will die before Congress musters the courage to act on an immigration bill that includes a humane process for regulating the flow of foreign workers into the United States?
How long before the Arizona Daily Star hands out free papers in Mexico telling them not to attempt to enter the US as it's against the law and it's deadly dangerous?
Yeah, I know, we will all be dead before that happens.
31 posted on
07/01/2007 6:07:33 PM PDT by
RJL
To: hardback
I didn’t realize — read it from Mark Steyn, a legal immigrant — that the bill forced all the legal immigrants to the back of the line while the illegal ones were being absorbed. I hadn’t heard that, and I’m not gonna argue with Steyn, arguably the best columnist in America in our day.
Isn’t that odd? He was pointing out that the legals were getting punished and the illegals were getting rewarded.
I would not trust a 400+ page bill in Congress if it were authored by Billy Graham and co-signed by the Pope.
Way too many words.
33 posted on
07/01/2007 6:48:51 PM PDT by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
To: hardback
Liberal OBL twisted-panties hand-wringing barf alert.
35 posted on
07/01/2007 7:12:03 PM PDT by
Travis McGee
(--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
To: Borax Queen
Narrow-mindedness won the day. Anyone who sees this as a victory for America is living in a fantasyland.
36 posted on
07/01/2007 7:13:28 PM PDT by
nicmarlo
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