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Global Warming Controversy Generates Heat (Smear Campaign Begins on Prof. Bryson)
Madison.com ^ | June 30, 2007 | Samara Kalk Derby

Posted on 07/01/2007 7:31:26 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: Diana in Wisconsin
he is not skeptical that global warming exists, he is just doubtful that humans are the cause of it.

Exactly! When a boob like Al Gore try to convince you that his ideas can control global climate imagine that same boob trying to convince you his ideas can control continental drift.

21 posted on 07/01/2007 8:48:44 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Everyone would be thrilled if he were right. Global warming is a major, major global crisis and it would be fantastic if Reid were correct. But sadly he is not."

File these comments under "H" -- for hooey.

I'm very happy to hear this is a hot topic in Madison! I have some very closed-minded liberal relatives out there and I'm happy to hear they can't avoid being introduced to this other point of view.

22 posted on 07/01/2007 8:49:51 AM PDT by syriacus (If the US troops had remained in S. Korea in 1949, there would have been no Korean War (1950-53).)
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To: MosesKnows
Please give him a break.

Algorged will deal with global warming, continental drift and planetary wiggle. His hugeness will then sit on his throne and accept you green bucks cause he is the reigning No Nuthing Nerd!

SARCASM ALURT!(ALgorged spelling of course!)

23 posted on 07/01/2007 8:54:48 AM PDT by Young Werther ( and Julius Ceasar said, "quae cum ita sunt." (or since these things are so!))
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To: centurion316
The Court of the Inquistion will convene at the Holy See of Global Warming, Nashville

12,000 years ago, before a previous global warming, humans in Nashville were living in caves and hunting mastodon.

Nowdays, people in places farther north might want to have a piece of the "warmness" pie, but selfish Al Gore refuses to let them share the good life he has.

Global Warming Happens
It happened 11,000 years ago and removed these ice sheets

That's why we can sail the Great Lakes and that's why Al Gore can have a farm.

24 posted on 07/01/2007 9:04:09 AM PDT by syriacus (If the US troops had remained in S. Korea in 1949, there would have been no Korean War (1950-53).)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I am thrilled that global warming is a hoax. I don’t have to throw away my ice fishing gear.


25 posted on 07/01/2007 9:12:28 AM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Professor Bryson is condemned because his research (which is well backed up) goes against the orthodoxy of so-called global warming.

Meanwhile, how many Communists and Marxists are there at the University of Wisconson? Don’t we have enough proof of how wrong they are?


26 posted on 07/01/2007 9:33:16 AM PDT by JeffChrz
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To: OK
It is interesting that the guy with no financial interest is the one bold enough to speak up

It's been pointed out that GW "deniers" are most often Professor Emeriti who no longer have a financial interest in the outcome of the scientific research. After reading this, I've observed the pattern, too.

27 posted on 07/01/2007 9:39:39 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TomGuy

I’m here in Phoenix and I’m still waiting to see our high temp beat the record set in 1989 (122 F). Seems to me if the globe is progressively warming we would break all the previous high temp records every year.


28 posted on 07/01/2007 9:39:51 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Lawrence Solomon's "The Deniers" (a series of articles on the view of scientists who have been labelled "Global Warming Deniers"):

Other References:


29 posted on 07/01/2007 9:47:34 AM PDT by sourcery (Anthropogenic Global Warming: A convenient lie designed to establish socialism by fear and deception)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. — Socrates


30 posted on 07/01/2007 9:50:48 AM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I think it is pretty clear at this point that what the IPCC said is actually true: That humans are changing the climate," Vimont said.

CO2 is just one of the things the IPCC looks at so what the professor has said should not be controversial. The IPCC gives a 90% confidence interval that the Earth is warming but not the same confidence that it is human caused, from CO2 or otherwise.
31 posted on 07/01/2007 10:04:07 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
decades ago there was consesus among scientists about global >B>cooling

There was also once a consensus among scientists over eugenics.

What I want to know is, if the debate over global warming is over, as Al Gore says it is, why is the IPCC still in business? They've done their work and can all go home now.
32 posted on 07/01/2007 11:10:10 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: syriacus
I'm very happy to hear this is a hot topic in Madison! I have some very closed-minded liberal relatives out there

Mention Bjorn Lomborg to them and watch them go bananas. :)
33 posted on 07/01/2007 11:11:39 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: TomGuy
It is global warming nicely here in the middle of the nation. We had another nice June with temps mostly in the low to mid 80s. This moring, July 1, it is a beautiful 72 degrees. I can remember some summers when the temps were nearing or over 100 degrees by the start of July.

Same here in Northern CA. We usually have hit 100 at least once or twice by now but not yet and the last few days have been extremely nice. Today it is 75 at 11:45 AM. Great weather, but hardly the hot temps predicted last winter by global warming activists(read idiots).

34 posted on 07/01/2007 11:36:30 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"There is a huge mountain of evidence and scientific theory and publications, all out there in the public arena, and Reid comes along and has some other idea, but he provides no evidence. You just have to take his word for it, said Jonathan Foley, a climatologist at UW-Madison who directs the Center for Sustainability and the Global Environment..."

"He tends to not back up his opinions with any facts, with any argument," Martin said. "He'll just rather flippantly tell you. There really isn't much of an argument there, it's an assertion. Let's just be careful to not give assertions the same weight as considered scientific opinion, the kind that have gone through peer review. It's not really the same thing." - Jonathan Martin, chairman of the atmospheric and oceanic sciences department at UW-Madison.

"...In the first 30 feet of the atmosphere, on the average, outward radiation from the Earth, which is what CO2 is supposed to affect, how much [of the reflected energy] is absorbed by water vapor? In the first 30 feet, 80 percent, okay?

"And how much is absorbed by carbon dioxide? Eight hundredths of one percent. One one-thousandth as important as water vapor. You can go outside and spit and have the same effect as doubling carbon dioxide..."

"...This begs questions about the widely publicized mathematical models researchers run through supercomputers to generate climate scenarios 50 or 100 years in the future. Bryson says the data fed into the computers overemphasizes carbon dioxide and accounts poorly for the effects of clouds—water vapor. Asked to evaluate the models’ long-range predictive ability, he answers with another question: “Do you believe a five-day forecast?”

"Bryson says he looks in the opposite direction, at past climate conditions, for clues to future climate behavior. Trying that approach in the weeks following our interview, Wisconsin Energy Cooperative News soon found six separate papers about Antarctic ice core studies, published in peer-reviewed scientific journals between 1999 and 2006. The ice core data allowed researchers to examine multiple climate changes reaching back over the past 650,000 years. All six studies found atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations tracking closely with temperatures, but with CO2 lagging behind changes in temperature, rather than leading them. The time lag between temperatures moving up—or down—and carbon dioxide following ranged from a few hundred to a few thousand years..."

From a great interview with Bryson:

The Faithful Heretic - A Wisconsin Icon Pursues Tough Questions
Wisconsin Energy Cooperative News - May 2007

35 posted on 07/01/2007 12:02:49 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: concentric circles; All

Thanks for all the great posts; though I know I’m preachin’ to the choir here. :)

Prof. Bryson is awesome and very articulate. I heard him interviewed by our local afternoon talk radio ConservaBabe and he rocked. Batted down the calls from the Loony Leftists in this town like swattin’ flies, LOL!

Again, his position ISN’T that there isn’t any ‘Global Warming;’ just that we humans are so insignificant in the Grand Scheme of Things as to not be a cause.

Algore is going to have a lot to answer to when he gets to the Pearly Gates such as, “How can you place yourself above G-d as all knowing, while making a buck off of your fellow man?” ;)

Maybe some of these “scientists” should leave their Ivory Towers, go stand in the middle of a cornfield at midnight and gaze up at the stars...then they can tell me how IMPORTANT they are and how they personally effect the planet in any big way. Yeesh!

Even we dumb Farm Gals in “Flyover Country” know that controlling Nature is beyond our control. Ever planted 300 Gladiolus to sell, only to have them ripped to shreds by a hail storm the day BEFORE you’re to take them to market? Yep. That’s called ‘An Act of Nature’ and she’ll smack you down good whenever she feels like it.

And there ain’t nothin’ you can do about it. ;)


36 posted on 07/01/2007 2:19:25 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ll be checking out the global warming in Walworth County in a couple weeks. Hopefully there won’t be tornado warnings, complete with sirens, on three consecutive days like the last time I was there, lol!


37 posted on 07/01/2007 2:41:35 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: concentric circles

I’m praying for decent weather for my guys up in the Boundary Waters, too. They’re usually pretty lucky when they go; with the fish and the weather.

Have fun! :)


38 posted on 07/01/2007 3:18:23 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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