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To: editor-surveyor; ladyinred; Radix
One fascinating paragraph in Kill Zone: A Sniper Looks at Dealey Plaza by Craig Roberts occurs on page 89:
According to my friend, Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, the former senior instructor for the U.S. Marine Corps Sniper Instructor School at Quantico, Virginia, it could not be done as described by the FBI investigators. Gunny Hathcock, now retired, [since died] is the most famous American military sniper in history. In Vietnam he was credited with 93 confirmed kills—and a total of over 300 actual kills counting those unconfirmed. He now conducts police SWAT team sniper schools across the country. When I called him to ask if he had seen the Zapruder film, he chuckled and cut me off. “Let me tell you what we did at Quantico,” he began. “We reconstructed the whole thing: the angle, the range, the moving target, the time limit, the obstacles, everything. I don’t know how many times we tried it, but we couldn’t duplicate what the Warren Commission said Oswald did. Now if I can’t do it, how in the world could a guy who was a non-qual on the rifle range and later only qualified ‘marksman’ do it?”

190 posted on 06/30/2007 8:49:36 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

Q: Now, Mr. Frazier, what was the purpose of this examination and reenactment, what were you seeking to learn from it?

A: I was involved in this reenactment as an adviser or consultant to the Warren Commission in an effort to reconstruct the testimony of various witnesses according to the Commission’s records, to determine whether or not this testimony was feasible and possible and to determine whether it could have, that is the assassination could have occurred as these witnesses have advised.

Q: Could you tell us the mechanics of the reenactment that was conducted by you and Mr. Shaneyfelt and others?

A: In the first place the presidential limousine in which the President was shot was not available so therefore a Cadillac limousine was substituted and individuals were placed in this car as stand-ins for the President and Governor John Connally. The position of the people in the car were adjusted by the Commission according to information that developed from studying various movie films and still films, particularly one taken by Abraham Zapruder. The relative elevation of the President was adjusted by having him sit on blankets so that his position with reference to Governor Connally at the time of the assassination would be duplicated in the stand-ins. The position left and right, that is from side to side, was also positioned as nearly as possible as could be duplicated. The automobile itself was placed on the street as nearly as possible as could be duplicated from studying various films and also driven down this street as movies were taken. Then it was driven down the street and stopped at various places so additional photographs could be taken and certain measurements made and then finally a photograph was made of the entire process with the, with a movie camera attached to a rifle on which a telescopic sight was fixed, that is a movie was taken through a telescopic sight.

Q: What was your particular function in this reenactment, Mr. Frazier?

A: I was stationed in the southeast corner of the Texas School Book Depository Building on the sixth floor in a partially, at a partially open window and directed the position of the car with reference to a large tree which exists in front of this building, advising the men on the street when they should stop the car, at what time the President’s stand-in was visible through the foliage and had cleared the foliage and so forth.

Q: And you say you were in the window of the Book Depository?

A: Yes, sir.

Q: On the sixth floor?

A: Yes, sir.

Q: Now in connection with this reenactment, Mr. Frazier, did you use the Zapruder films?

A: Yes, sir, we did.

Q: Now with respect to frame 313 of the Zapruder film, which is the frame in which it is obvious from the film that the President was shot in the head, at the time when the reenactment vehicle was in the same spot as was the presidential vehicle according to the Zapruder film, at the time of frame 313, was there a clear shot from the sixth-floor depository window to the head of the stand-in for the president?

A: Yes, there was.

Q: Now by studying the Zapruder film are you able to tell with any certainty in what frame the President had been hit for the first time?

A: That could not be definitely established in my opinion for two reasons: One, it is not known what the reaction time of the President was after he was shot and it is not clear in the picture as to which frame he begins to show reaction and therefore you cannot determine exactly, you may be able to approximate the frame number.

Q: Let me ask you if prior to frame 313, that is the position the vehicle was in at that time, had there been any other clear shots established at the presidential stand-in?

A: From the sixth floor depository window, yes, sir, I would say that from frame 207 on the car had cleared the tree.

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194 posted on 06/30/2007 9:02:37 PM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: PhilDragoo

That’s because they mught have been rifleman but they didn’t know a thing about history. They thought they had to shoot all three shots in 4 seconds.


238 posted on 07/01/2007 6:50:16 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: PhilDragoo

No disrespect to the good hero intended, but Gunnery Sgt. Carlos Hathcock was also a bit of a drunken hayseed committed to telling tall tales.


472 posted on 07/04/2007 12:04:35 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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