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To: PetroniusMaximus

It was just on Discovery or similar TV and the 70 year old “dry fired” 3 shots. he DID NOT shot the rifle and more imporatantly he did not hit any target although he was able to click and cycle the bolt in the Warren Commission 3 shot timeframe. Hardly the same as acurately hitting a moving target with every shot with one of the worst rifles ever made.


180 posted on 06/30/2007 8:37:05 PM PDT by dusttoyou
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To: dusttoyou

“Hardly the same as acurately hitting a moving target with every shot with one of the worst rifles ever made.”

I “hardly” know where to start with the tripe of this statement.
The Mannlicher-Carcano was not one of the “worst rifles ever made”!
Only 2 of the 3 shots hit.
Please back up your statement with SOME evidence.


187 posted on 06/30/2007 8:44:04 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: dusttoyou
FBI firing speed tests and accuracy tests with Oswald’s rifle. Presented at the Clay Shaw trial - testimony of Robert Frazier:

The first test performed was performed primarily, primarily for accuracy but also for maintaining a rapid rate of fire. These tests were performed at 45 feet in the indoor range with artificial light firing at a target with the rifle and with the four-power telescopic sight mounted on it. The tests which I fired at that 45-foot distance consisted of three shots fired in a span of 5.9 seconds, that is from the time the first shot was fired until the third shot was fired. The tests consisted of firing, reloading and firing, reloading and firing the third time so that a total of three shots were fired. The tests conducted at the 75-foot distance consisted of two three-shot groups also fired for accuracy and speed. These consisted of a group fired in approximately a 2 inch circle at 75 feet in a period of 4.8 seconds, and a series of shots fired in a group which would be all-encompassed in a 5 inch circle which was fired in a time of 4.6 seconds.

I believe I left out the accuracy measurement for the first 45 foot target. In that target the three shots fired could be covered by a quarter. The third set of tests consisted of four targets situated at 300 feet in the outdoor range in daylight. In those four targets, first I’ll give you the time interval and then the size of the pattern formed by the three shots that were fired in each of those tests. These three shots in the first test were fired in 5.9 seconds and they landed in a 3 ½ inch circle; the second test was fired in 6.2 seconds, the three shots landed in a 4 inch circle and — I should say 4 ½ to 5 inch circle. The third test was fired in 5.6 seconds, the three shots landed in a 3 inch circle and these shots landed in a 3 ½ inch circle. This test also was conducted both for accuracy and for speed.

191 posted on 06/30/2007 8:54:04 PM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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