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Oswald 'had no time to fire all Kennedy bullets'
The Sunday Telegraph (UK) ^ | 6/30/2007 | Tim Shipman

Posted on 06/30/2007 4:36:50 PM PDT by 1066AD

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To: tpaine
We have. You say it's not so, then don't say why.

You tell me. It's always that way with conspiracists:

Me: It happened this way.

You: No it didn't.

Me: Yes it did. Here's the evidence.

You: Nuh uh. I don't buy it, especially not from those crooks.

Me: Why not?

You: YOU TELL ME! (*burp*).

521 posted on 07/04/2007 3:57:06 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: spanalot; Shooter 2.5
"... Zapruder clearly shows Connelly unaffected after the neck shot.

There is the proof of the extra assassin.

Dr. Shooter 2.5, you're needed in the Zapruder room, please. Connally coat lapel lift at frame 219, I believe.

While spanalot is explaining how and from where the extra assassin was, we're content with the previously shown evidence.

Spanalot, your turn. Go on. I hope that I won't hear 'YOU TELL ME!'.

522 posted on 07/04/2007 4:01:06 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Shooter 2.5; The KG9 Kid; tpaine
"If that's true, it appears that the only operational flaw with the alleged defective clip's operation is that it did not eject from the rifle. "

Probably the rifle not the clip.

I also don’t believe Carcanos eject their clips on the last shot. Garands do but not the Carcano. If there is any information otherwise, I would like to see it.

They are supposed to, The cartridges are the only thing hokding the clip in the magazine.

But doesn't alwatys happen. When he did his reconstruction, Dr John K Lattimer found that two of the four Carcanos he purchased would not reliably eject the clip automatically(Didn't affect the ammo feed however)

523 posted on 07/04/2007 4:01:58 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: Oztrich Boy; tpaine
Yep. Busts your theory tpaine. Thanks for bringing that non-issue up, however.
524 posted on 07/04/2007 4:03:38 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid
Kid, the burden of proof is on the prosecution - the Commission. You believe their single bullet theory. - You tell me

. We have. You say it's not so, then don't say why.

Bull. I've explained in detail why your single bullet theory does not work.

Me: It happened this way.

No it didn't. And I explain why.

Me: Yes it did. Here's the evidence.

I don't buy it. That's Specter's theory, not evidence.

Me: Why not?
(*burp*).

You drinking already? - I'm about to go to a party and will join you soon.

525 posted on 07/04/2007 4:11:23 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: The KG9 Kid

I’m not referencing Stone’s movie. I’ve got several bookcases full of material on the JFK assassination. And while fingerprints may be an archaic police method, if memory serves, the assassination took place a long time ago.


526 posted on 07/04/2007 4:13:01 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / The defintion of insantity is repeating an action and expecting a different result.)
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To: JoeA
So you're just arguing about the amount of prints left by Oswald on the Carcano...

... You're not saying there's no prints or that they're not Oswald's prints.

Alright, so we have Oswald's prints on Oswald's rifle. Pretty damning evidence, wouldn't you say? Glad that's settled.

527 posted on 07/04/2007 4:18:22 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: JoeA

JoeA makes a good point, some conspiracy theorists apparently don’t like the take of the JFK movie; but at least it puts a lot of the issues out there. There are hundreds of books on the subject; maybe up to 700.

Reading some of the testimony, like that of Warren Reynolds or Dean Andrews is a bit astounding (http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ). And then, reading Andrews testimony in the Garrison case after his testimony in the Warren Commission surely would make many wonder.


528 posted on 07/04/2007 4:20:03 PM PDT by RGPII
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To: The KG9 Kid

Kennedy is hit at 224 and already bringing his arms up and Connelly is still gawking around.

Tough one to lose but this is proof of a second shooter.


529 posted on 07/04/2007 4:28:03 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot

Bingo!!


530 posted on 07/04/2007 5:26:59 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / The defintion of insantity is repeating an action and expecting a different result.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

I’ll admit to Oswald’s single palm print on the rifle. There is no disputing that. But how is it that there is only one print? If he handled the gun, there would have to be more than one, on the barrel, the stock, somewhere else. And, if he fired the rifle, why was the Dallas PD nitrate test negative?


531 posted on 07/04/2007 5:32:19 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / The defintion of insantity is repeating an action and expecting a different result.)
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To: JoeA
How about his prints on the tape of the paper bag that Oswald hand-made to carry the rifle? The one with the cellophane tape from home and the clippings of grocery sacks left behind? Prints were found there. They were also found on the box he perched on at the shooting location. A dent in the box also found where he rested the rifle stock. None of this adds up to conspiracists, and they even believe that the rifle left DPD chain of custody and was snuck into the hospital where Oswald lay dead to surreptitiously gather prints from his corpse. It's just insane.

Again, with the paraffin testing, it's a non-issue. It even came up partially positive.

532 posted on 07/04/2007 5:51:06 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: spanalot; JoeA
Second shooter where, exactly?

Extra bullets, where, exactly?

533 posted on 07/04/2007 5:53:43 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: JoeA

Thanks for the fun. I counted four out and out lies.


534 posted on 07/04/2007 6:28:12 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: spanalot

I figured you had to use a pry bar to pull your terrible trigger.

Just keep posting about guns. The mistakes keep adding up.


535 posted on 07/04/2007 6:38:08 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Frame 223 and 224.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/223-224.gif


536 posted on 07/04/2007 6:45:34 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Shooter 2.5

“Just keep posting about guns. The mistakes keep adding up.”

What mistakes?


537 posted on 07/04/2007 7:04:59 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Shooter 2.5

That “Zapruder” image has more touchup than my motherinlaws face.

Dont forget the Zapruder film was not released until ten years later.


538 posted on 07/04/2007 7:13:16 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: 1066AD
Oswald didn't have to do that. The first one would have already been chambered. So it would have been shoot 3, load 2.

I have a Remington 788 in .243, and the action is not all that slick, and I am an average shot at best, but I think that with a rest such as a window frame, I could easily put 3 shots in the black at 80 yards in 8.3 seconds. That's giving me four seconds each follow up shot to work the bolt and re-aim, not that tough when motivated and full of adrenaline.

539 posted on 07/04/2007 7:19:45 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: The KG9 Kid
and they even believe that the rifle left DPD chain of custody and was snuck into the hospital where Oswald lay dead to surreptitiously gather prints from his corpse. It's just insane.

I believe it is the Warren Commission and the FBI experts who have some reservations about the palm print found on the gun.

Fibers from Oswald's shirt are found on the rifle. Likewise on the box too.

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"The FBI tests of the Mannlicher-Carcano's accuracy showed that the rifle was:

1) Inaccurate from 15 yards.[10]

2) Carrying a scope that was mounted for a left-handed person (Oswald was right-handed).[11]

3) The rifle was unable to be "sighted-in", using the scope, without the installation of 2 metal shims (small metal plates) which were not present when the rifle arrived for testing, and were never found.[12]

During efforts supervised by the FBI to duplicate the shooting accuracy allegedly achieved, no FBI, military or civilian (National Rifle Association) expert was ever able to match Oswald's performance. No tests have ever been made using Oswald's rifle in the condition in which it was found.[16]"

-Answers.com

540 posted on 07/04/2007 9:23:40 PM PDT by RGPII
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