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Germany silences pro-lifers, homeschoolers, creationists
WND ^ | June 28, 2007 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 06/29/2007 11:48:20 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

FAITH UNDER FIRE

Germany silences pro-lifers, homeschoolers, creationists

Crime is 'incitement of the people,' court rules in ordering prison term

Posted: June 28, 2007 1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Chelsea Schilling

© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

A 55-year-old Lutheran pastor has been found guilty of "volksverhetzung" or "incitement of the people" by a German court and will spend a year in jail after an Erlangen court claimed he made a statement denying the Holocaust suffered by the Jews at the hands of Nazi-Germany during World War II.

Johannes Lerle compared Germany's abortion rate of 150,000 annually to the murder of Jews in Auschwitz during the Holocaust.

According to Life Site, though the pastor has been jailed for anti-abortion activities in the past, his current one-year jail term stemmed specifically from charges of Holocaust denial and not from his statements comparing abortion to the Nazi Holocaust, as it claims news sources erroneously reported.

However, Lerle has faced prison time in the past for voicing his opposition to abortion.

"Previously, he had been jailed for eight months for calling abortionists 'professional killers.' An allegation which the court ruled to be slanderous because the court says the unborn are not human," an anonymous pro-life activist in Germany told Salem Voice Ministries.

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"Berlin is Germany's abortion capital. For every 1,000 babies born in Berlin, 344 were killed in their mother's womb," Pro-life With Christ reports. "In the city with 3.4 million inhabitants 10,024 babies were aborted [in 2006]."

However, such figures fail to account for the substantial number of unrecorded abortions – which are estimated to be equal to the total number of reported abortions.

Other high-profile religious leaders have also condemned Germany's growing acceptance of abortion. According to a BBC report, the Roman Catholic Church publicly condemned government plans to allow the sale of abortion pill RU-486 in 1998. Archbishop of Cologne Joachim Meissner made a comparison between taking the abortion pill and the use of gas in the Holocaust.

Gunter Annen is another pro-life activist who has faced a similar fate at the hands of a German court. In 2005, he asked to end "unjust abortions in medical practice" and was sentenced to 50 days in jail because the courts claimed the term "unjust" can be interpreted to mean "illegal." People who have abortions are not prosecuted if patients receive counseling and terminate the pregnancy within three months of conception.

Germany uses threats of "volksverhetzung," a tactic once used by Nazis against their enemies, to intimidate many of its citizens – including homeschoolers.

As WND previously reported, a German court ordered teenager Melissa Busekros to be taken from her home by a police squad and detained in a psychiatric hospital for being homeschooled. She was later returned to her family when an appeals court ruled she was no longer in danger.

In a separate WND report, a federal prosecutor in the German state of Hesse is seeking three-month prison terms for a mother and father who homeschool their six children, even though the family already has paid fines for violating the nation's Hitler-era homeschooling ban and made plans to move.

Officials with the Home School Legal Defense Association, the pre-eminent homeschool advocacy organization in the world, are actively involved in a number of cases. Estimates are that there are about 400 homeschool families in Germany – virtually all of them either forced into hiding or in court.

Many fear the ever-present threat of "volksverhetzung" in contemporary Europe, as it is being used to silence and jail conservative and orthodox citizens for voicing their own deeply felt beliefs.

The charge may soon be used to combat creationism as well. On June 26, the Council of Europe, or CoE, Europe's main human-rights body, is scheduled to vote on a proposal advocating the fight against creationism in its 47 member states.

According to CoE's Parliamentary Assembly report, creationists are dangerous "religious fundamentalists" who propagate "forms of religious extremism."

"Creationism, born of the denial of the evolution of species through natural selection, was for a long time an almost exclusively American phenomenon," the report says. "Today creationist theories are tending to find their way into Europe … [T]his is liable to encourage the development of all manner of fundamentalism and extremism, synonymous with attacks of utmost virulence on human rights."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; bigotsecularists; creationists; europeanchristians; freespeech; gemany; holocaustdenier; homeschoolers; lerle
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To: GodGunsGuts

Sounds to me that germany has been at these crossroads before.1933 comes to mind.


21 posted on 06/29/2007 3:05:38 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I don’t understand - when did the pastor deny the Holocaust? Or are the authorities claiming that his comparison of abortion to the Holocaust is denial?


22 posted on 06/29/2007 3:09:28 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: GodGunsGuts

The time I was in Germany I felt the undercurrent. It’s there, still, the authority thing. Had a couple face to face discussions, but evidently I have as much of it as they do because they gave up and left.


23 posted on 06/29/2007 3:09:31 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thank you.


24 posted on 06/29/2007 3:11:18 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen

==I don’t understand - when did the pastor deny the Holocaust? Or are the authorities claiming that his comparison of abortion to the Holocaust is denial?

He doesn’t deny the holocaust, but he question certain aspects of the holocaust such as whether any Jews were gassed on German soil. And yes, ironically the German authorities have interpreted his comparison of abortion to the holocaust as “holocaust denial.”


25 posted on 06/29/2007 3:18:37 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: DaveyB

Davey , You do not understand. “Holocaust”, “Genocide” it’s a copywrite infringement thingy. This has nothing to do with the current legally sanctioned mass slaughter of innocent human life.


26 posted on 06/29/2007 3:26:55 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: GodGunsGuts

Today, Germany. Tomorrow, the world. Looks like they’re finishing off what Hitler started.


27 posted on 06/29/2007 3:36:17 PM PDT by Kevmo (We need to get away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party ~Duncan Hunter)
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To: DaveyB

>> his current one-year jail term stemmed specifically from charges of Holocaust denial and not from his statements comparing abortion to the Nazi Holocaust, as it claims news sources erroneously reported.

That assertion is pretty clear. Is there an exception to the charge? Despite the alleged/implied remarks regarding Holocaust Denial, I criticized the German gov’t for its intolerance regarding speech.

>> Perhaps you didn’t understand the story? Or maybe you like the killing of babies!

Now that’s a dumb statement veiled as question. It’s one thing to question my remarks about the ‘guy’, but don’t loop me into your ‘baby killing’ language.


28 posted on 06/29/2007 4:32:02 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: NativeSon
How does the ol' Fatherland deal with Muslims and their kind

Don't know about "and their kind", but "das Volk" are starting to show some concern about a proposed huge new mosque in Cologne, but the PC Elite seem to have them pretty well cowed.
29 posted on 06/29/2007 5:08:27 PM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Typical atheistic Eurotrash.

New generation, same old Germans.

30 posted on 06/29/2007 5:13:09 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: GodGunsGuts; DaveyB; nkycincinnatikid; Kevmo; 69ConvertibleFirebird

When we figure out how to put a SSI number on embryos that is when they will actually have a predetermined calculable value. When that occurs that is when government will step in and ban abortions.


31 posted on 06/29/2007 5:35:42 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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To: B4Ranch
When that occurs that is when government will step in and ban abortions.

Or, if it becomes possible to determine (it won't be possible, but hypothetically) whether your fetus will grow up and decide to be gay, abortions will then be banned.

32 posted on 06/29/2007 6:01:18 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
"Previously, he had been jailed for eight months for calling abortionists 'professional killers.' An allegation which the court ruled to be slanderous because the court says the unborn are not human,"

German logic at work.

Two organisms are conceived on New Year's Eve. Genealogically, they are first cousins and their biological parents are German citizens.

Seven months later, on July 30, one is delivered two months prematurely and it is now "human".

Eight months later, on August 30, the second organism is still not delivered and it is therefor "not human" although his first cousin of the exact conception date has already been "human" for a month.

One of these days, the Germans might decide to call a German Jew or a Pole some name such as, say, "Untermenchen" thereby implying that they are also "not human" and it is therefore perfectly acceptable to kill them. It would even be against the libel laws to argued that it is immoral to kill them.

Then again, maybe I am exaggerating and their logic could never be taken that far.

33 posted on 06/29/2007 6:25:15 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius

your logic checks with mine.


34 posted on 06/29/2007 9:56:01 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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