Free enterprise? Free enterprise is great. But, free enterprise doesn't mean a lot of businessmen get rich by willfully breaking the law, pass the costs on to the rest of us, and then pay off senators with campaign contributions to legalize their victimization of the rest of the country. Bingo.
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2 posted on
06/29/2007 9:44:51 AM PDT by
Ultra Sonic 007
(Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Free enterprise doesn’t mean allowing companies to go outside the country for cheap labor while making it illegal for citizens to go outside the country in search of cheaper medicines.
I don’t know what you would call it but it’s a clear double standard.
5 posted on
06/29/2007 9:47:52 AM PDT by
cripplecreek
(Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
6 posted on
06/29/2007 9:48:13 AM PDT by
pabianice
To: Ultra Sonic 007
Now is not the time to let up. We need to pressure our politicians to enforce the existing immigration laws including deporting illegal aliens, building the fence and prosecuting businesses who do business with illegal aliens. The link below is a ping list to pay attention for other questionable legislation being considered in Congress.
Keeping Track Of The Congress Critters
7 posted on
06/29/2007 9:48:21 AM PDT by
Man50D
(Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
I saw a woman on the news who was the owner of a landscaping company out west, in CA, I think. She was going on and on about how she couldn’t find Americans or legal immigrants to do the work so she HAD to hire illegals that would do the work.
She begrudgingly admitted that she started them at $7 an hour. Why would anyone work out in the heat of summer for $7 an hour when they could go to any fast-food chain, restaurant or a retail store and make that much working in the A/C?
As my wife said, she won’t meet the market demands for her labor costs and wants the government to legislate her a way to keep paying lower wages than the market demands.
8 posted on
06/29/2007 9:53:43 AM PDT by
L98Fiero
(A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
I believe the business community was more interested in the uniformity of enforcement and the ability to have a guest worker program that they could rely on, but was willing to give a little on the eventual citizenship thing as part of the compromise. The next bill in 2009 won’t be so business friendly, but will be much friendlier to the citizenship part.
9 posted on
06/29/2007 9:55:37 AM PDT by
AmusedBystander
(Republicans - doing the work that Democrats won't do since 1854.)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
Terrific article!! The author hit every nail there is right on the head!
10 posted on
06/29/2007 9:58:35 AM PDT by
KoRn
(Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
We all know that not all business plays into the illegal labor game and many are suffering from unfair competition the illegal labor rates contribute. The participating members of the “Chamber of Exploitation” are sell-outs.
11 posted on
06/29/2007 10:01:47 AM PDT by
Gene Eric
(God Bless the U.S.A)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
Vote NO on amnesty for illegal businesses!
12 posted on
06/29/2007 10:03:53 AM PDT by
Rudder
To: Ultra Sonic 007
If you local taxes dollars are being wasted and misspent, many times you can find that Chamber of Commerce was exploiting the incompetence and crookedness of local pols. It is kind of like welfare for business, but Republicans are not supposed to ever ever make that connection.
13 posted on
06/29/2007 10:05:23 AM PDT by
Biblebelter
(I can't believe people still watch TV with the sound on.)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
Strange how GW Bush’s strong sense of wanting to spread democracy doesn’t count in cleaning up the corrupt Mexican government so these folks don’t have to leave home in the first place?
17 posted on
06/29/2007 10:09:29 AM PDT by
applpie
To: Ultra Sonic 007
Raise the minimum wage then circumvent it with illegal labor, we get votes from labor and money from business what a great strategy!This how these clowns think they’ll get reelected by playing both sides of the fence never mind that our country’s economy is destroyed.
18 posted on
06/29/2007 10:09:40 AM PDT by
bonehead4freedom
(Winning the war is easy kill the enemy and don't let the A.C.L.U. dictate the rules of engagement)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
FANTASTIC bump. The Chamber of Commerce and the Wall Street Journal would bring back slavery if they could just call it by another name.
19 posted on
06/29/2007 10:15:00 AM PDT by
Mamzelle
(We need a new, conservative chairman of the RNC first, because the elites are about to take revenge)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
The globalists expect the American taxpayer to protect their "interests" while defunding the means to afford it. They are betraying American contributions of intellectual and financial capital to the portability of their enterprises.
They are traitors in every sense of the word.
21 posted on
06/29/2007 10:25:59 AM PDT by
Carry_Okie
(There are people in power who are truly evil.)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
That's why it was so disappointing that none of that seemed to mean anything to the "Chamber of Commerce" crowd when it comes to the illegal immigration issue. Their attitude, right from the beginning to the bitter end of the bill in the Senate yesterday was, "We want to bring in as much cheap labor as humanly possible now, next year, and forever more to fatten our wallets and we want everyone else to pick up the tab for it. If it puts American workers out of a job, we don't care. If it drives their wages down, so much the better, because that means we make more money. If we have to leave the borders open and risk another 9/11, that's fine with us. If we have to get the bill through by demonizing as racists the very people who have staunchly defended us on issue after issue, it doesn't bother us a bit. Long story short, if anyone doesn't like what we want to do, tough, because we bought these senators with our campaign contributions, we own them, and it's our way or the highway." In other words, for a lot of these companies that knowingly hire illegals, this is all about raw, unbridled greed. Any conservative that stay a member of the chamber of commerce is a piece of --it!
22 posted on
06/29/2007 10:35:34 AM PDT by
org.whodat
(What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
But, what I do have a problem with are businesses that want to put an enormous burden on the rest of the country just to inflate their bottom lines. These illegals have their health care and schooling taken care of the taxpayers too.
To: Ultra Sonic 007
The arrogant stupidity of the Chamber of Commerce actually clouds a number of side issues. Generally, I think the Chamber speaks through its own hired bureaucracy. The actual slants taken do not reflect the actual builders of business so much as a managerial class, itself more and more a bureaucracy, which feels itself aloof from the shareholders, rather than see itself, correctly, as their employees. The managers of member companies, then hire PR personnel to man the Chamber.
Certainly, none of that excuses, in the slightest, an organization which shows no interest in the continuity of American society as we have known it. The utter lack of identification with the mainstream of Americans is as nauseating as it is a short sighted betrayal of the long-term interests of the very companies funding the Chamber.
We need to push on, on many fronts. Not the least of these is to take the wake up call to educated Americans, wherever we find those who will listen, including among those very managers, who hire the Chamber for whatever purpose they have in mind. The best strategy is to broaden the numbers of those who are willing to consider all aspects of the problem, over the next few months, and then with enhanced numbers, to support Americans who do not apologize for wanting to keep America as it was passed on to us, by the brave, good men, who came before us. We need a new breed of political spokesmen; a new breed, who understand what the original breed--the founding fathers--understood, when they gave us our unique institutions and cultural norms.
For a discussion of issues relevant to Immigration, Immigration & The American Future.
William Flax
36 posted on
06/29/2007 11:15:23 AM PDT by
Ohioan
To: Ultra Sonic 007
I don’t get business’ view of the benefits of amnesty. If the illegals become legal, won’t that increase the cost of employing them as businesses will then need to pay minimum wage, provide benefits, etc. so the supply of cheap labor will dry up.
37 posted on
06/29/2007 11:36:22 AM PDT by
S.O.L.
To: Ultra Sonic 007
45 posted on
06/29/2007 1:28:46 PM PDT by
WriteOn
(Truth)
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