Posted on 06/29/2007 6:11:33 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
Some are calling a former U.S. Marine a hero for shooting two men killing one during the botched robbery of a sandwich shop in Plantation. But the men's friends and family want to know how he could gun them down and not be charged.
John Lovell had just finished dinner at about 11:15 p.m. Wednesday when, Plantation police say, two men armed with guns rushed inside a Subway shop and demanded cash. After robbing the store, the men turned to Lovell. They wanted his money, police said.
But like his attackers, Lovell was armed.
The retired military man opened fire, shooting dead Donicio Arrindell, 22, of North Lauderdale, and critically injuring Fredrick Gadson, 21, of Fort Lauderdale.
Lovell, 71, of Plantation, has a valid concealed weapons permit and is not expected to be charged in the shooting, said police spokesman Detective Robert Rettig. Gadson, however, faces multiple felony charges that could include murder, he said. Under Florida law, anyone who commits a felony such as armed robbery resulting in a death can be held accountable for the capital offense.
"He feared for his life," Rettig said of Lovell. "And if he's in fear for his life, then he has a right to defend himself, even if it means severe bodily injury or death."
Florida law gives people the right of "self-defense without the duty to retreat." That means individuals can use deadly force virtually anywhere to prevent death or serious injury.
Lovell could not be reached for comment despite calls and visits to his home.
(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...
It makes sense if your child’s career was at stake. You throw some money at her and she goes away. And the last thing you want is for her to go back to court.
In another minute she’ll claim he was “an honor student” and present a junior high graduation picture..
In many areas, especially urban, that, in fact is the mentality. Advocates of this thinking advance their “careers”. A certain, gaseous, helmet haired cleric comes to mind..
OMG - are you saying the families of the three lacrosse players would pay her to drop the charges?
No way. The best thing that has happened has been the public hearings about this case. The news coming out, the depositions, and the cross-examinations, have exposed corruption and lying on the part of the false accuser, the DA, the police and the DNA lab.
Nah, they just pay her to shut up. The DA is screwed if she suddenly goes cold.
Also, she can’t charge them again.
The lacrosse players were declared innocent by the AG. He also declared that Crystal was a liar and crazy.
Lots of liars and crazy people get charged for crimes they commit. Why not Crystal Mangum?
Sorry to go off about Mangum on a thread about a brave Marine...but
The DA is screwed if she goes cold? Doesn’t make sense. The DA is already screwed. The hearings have exposed all his lies.
Dragging Crystal into court would further expose all her lies and more importantly all the corruption in Durham.
It’s the corrupt power in Durham that is afraid of exposure, not the players’ families. IMO
She’s not going to charge them again. But if she is so guilty, why don’t they press charges? Because they know she will have to talk to protect herself.
“The People” were willing to back her as long as she was willing to be backed, truth be damned. Her guilt as irrelevant. NiFong was also protected by “The People”. She was the victim of “power”. But suddenly, she went quiet which hung Nifong out to dry. She’s a prostitute. She sells herself for money. That’s how Nifong (and Duke) got screwed. They backed a prostitute and money changes everything. The parents contacted her and offered to pay her for her pain and suffering.
Boo Hoo. Well, he can quit trying now. Problem solved.
My dad was a 3 war Marine, my daughter's a cop. Pretty easy to ffigure out my attitude on this kind of stuff.
>>>Boo Hoo. Well, he can quit trying now. Problem solved.
As we used to say in RVN, “If he can’t take a joke, F**k him!”
I have eaten at this Subway many times...and graduated high school in Plantation...many years ago. I grew up in this area and Tancredo is right to say it has become a third world country in Broward and Dade Counties.
One of the best moves I ever made was to get the hell out of South Florida and go elsewhere...and I am a native Floridian.
I suppose she won't forget to tell it to the civil jury when they sue the old boy for "wrongful death."
-ccm
Yes. I read about J. C. Adams here on Free Republic back when it happened. You learn a lot here on FR. And you exchange ideas with some highly intelligent and very well informed people! Freepers are smart. ~S
“I’m conflicted on that. I agree that piling on to the family at this point is cruel - unless they keep making stupid (ok, naive to give them the benefit) statements like the one they made.”
I can’t think of very many circumstances where overwhelming a private citizen you have never met with phonecalls about statements you don’t like is warranted. We certainly wouldn’t like it much if DU folk were doing that to conservatives who speak out in the paper.
It still doesn’t make sense. She still claims today that she was gang raped. Nobody paid her off. If they did, it didn’t work!
The Attorney General said she was lying. He further said he wouldn’t charge her for all the false accusations because she was crazy. That makes no sense either.
The best thing that has happened in this case has been the exposure of the corruption in Durham. Crystal would probably expose much more dry rot - maybe that’s why they don’t charge her.
One wonders what went through the mind of the robber...
A. 9mm?
YOU owe me a new keyboard !!!!!
ROFLMAO !!!
Oh oh...
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