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Dubya's End
New York Post ^ | June 29, 2007 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 06/29/2007 4:14:31 AM PDT by Truth29

DUBYA'S END

BORDER BILL THE LAST BLOW

June 29, 2007 -- PRESIDENT Bush's disastrous second term has not been without its moments. Unfortunately for him, these moments have come primarily when members of his own party have risen up against him to defy his wishes. That's what happened yesterday. For the second time in four weeks, Republicans in the Senate put a stake through the heart of Bush's beloved but politically catastrophic immigration bill.

It's also what happened in the early months of the second term, when Bush chose to nominate his unqualified aide, Harriet Miers, to the Supreme Court - and finally backed down and had her withdraw her name after three weeks of lobbying and complaining.

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He would not and could not back down on immigration reform, an issue far too close to his heart. But after the Senate first rejected the bill at the end of May, Bush could have left it alone and accepted defeat. He could have seen reason, as he did in January 2004 when he first proposed a piece of legislation and was met with an uprising from his conservative base - whereupon he prudently dropped the subject because he was running for re-election and needed a united and enthusiastic Republican electorate behind him.

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And perhaps most interesting, Bush chose to believe it was more important to court potential future Republican voters - those illegals who would have gained a "path to citizenship" under the terms of the bill in 13 years' time - rather than listen to the concerns of present-day Republican voters.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; bush43; deathofthegop; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; podhoretz; politicalcaptial; term2; vampirebill; victory
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To: TomGuy
More like he was holding out for you guys to let another 50 million in so his grandson's can get the hispanic vote in 2037./s ROTFLMBO!

BTW..where are all your screaming buddies today? The borders are still open and the Dems are still holding the funds for the fence.

141 posted on 06/29/2007 6:34:55 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: alicewonders
maybe his legacy will be that he reinvigorated the conservatives and made us realize that what they've been spoon-feeding us for the last year is NOT TRUE.

If part of his legacy were the destruction of Teddy Kennedy, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, that would be nice.
142 posted on 06/29/2007 6:37:08 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
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To: alicewonders

bttt


143 posted on 06/29/2007 6:37:15 AM PDT by Guenevere (On May 17,2007, President Bush awoke a sleeping giant....The American People!)
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To: Diogenesis
I was told by another Freeper yesterday that no legalization for no fence and 12 million illegals still here was good deal. I guess you are one of those grand bargainers as well.
144 posted on 06/29/2007 6:37:52 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Kerretarded
Rush HAS discussed his disbelief that W is for this awful bill. Rush has tied it primarily to Kennedy because Kennedy has been involved in bad immigration legislation since the 1960's. My bewilderment stems from the fact that W keeps going to Kennedy, a man that said America has reopened Saddam's torture chambers under new management in light of the Abu Ghraib photos.

But Hannity has been all over this like flies on crap. He has criticized everyone. He went toe to toe with Tony Snow and Chertoff. IMO, Chertoff should be canned immediately. We cannot wait 18 months for this man to be replaced. He has had funds available for months now to start building the 700 miles of fence.

Yes. Recently. Bush has been pushing for something like this since he got into office. Only recently, when it became popular to oppose this type of legislation did they jump in.

Look to Savage and others that have been fighting to have our borders closed for decades.

To wit:

The Path to National Suicide by Lawrence Auster (1990)

An essay on multi-culturalism and immigration.

Click the Pic!!!!

Excerpt....

How can we account for this remarkable silence? The answer, as I will try to show, is that when the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 was being considered in Congress, the demographic impact of the bill was misunderstood and downplayed by its sponsors. As a result, the subject of population change was never seriously examined. The lawmakers’ stated intention was that the Act should not radically transform America’s ethnic character; indeed, it was taken for granted by liberals such as Robert Kennedy that it was in the nation’s interest to avoid such a change. But the dramatic ethnic transformation that has actually occurred as a result of the 1965 Act has insensibly led to acceptance of that transformation in the form of a new, multicultural vision of American society. Dominating the media and the schools, ritualistically echoed by every politician, enforced in every public institution, this orthodoxy now forbids public criticism of the new path the country has taken. “We are a nation of immigrants,” we tell ourselves— and the subject is closed. The consequences of this code of silence are bizarre. One can listen to statesmen and philosophers agonize over the multitudinous causes of our decline, and not hear a single word about the massive immigration from the Third World and the resulting social divisions. Opponents of population growth, whose crusade began in the 1960s out of a concern about the growth rate among resident Americans and its effects on the environment and the quality of life, now studiously ignore the question of immigration, which accounts for fully half of our population growth.

This curious inhibition stems, of course, from a paralyzing fear of the charge of “racism.” The very manner in which the issue is framed—as a matter of equal rights and the blessings of diversity on one side, versus “racism” on the other—tends to cut off all rational discourse on the subject. One can only wonder what would happen if the proponents of open immigration allowed the issue to be discussed, not as a moralistic dichotomy, but in terms of its real consequences. Instead of saying: “We believe in the equal and unlimited right of all people to immigrate to the U.S. and enrich our land with their diversity,” what if they said: “We believe in an immigration policy which must result in a staggering increase in our population, a revolution in our culture and way of life, and the gradual submergence of our current population by Hispanic and Caribbean and Asian peoples.” Such frankness would open up an honest debate between those who favor a radical change in America’s ethnic and cultural identity and those who think this nation should preserve its way of life and its predominant, European-American character. That is the actual choice—as distinct from the theoretical choice between “equality” and “racism”—that our nation faces. But the tyranny of silence has prevented the American people from freely making that choice.

145 posted on 06/29/2007 6:38:23 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr
Do you not know how our government works? They have to fund the fence....the Dems will not fund it now.
146 posted on 06/29/2007 6:39:05 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: bert

A wise statement. I’m not sure but will not be surprised if the bill rears its ugly head again when we least expect it.


147 posted on 06/29/2007 6:39:21 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: Earthdweller
Do you not know how our government works? They have to fund the fence....the Dems will not fund it now.

Sorry. Deaf ears. Bush and his minions have had seven years to stump for border security and they stumped for the opposite.

148 posted on 06/29/2007 6:40:34 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: alicewonders

I have been a registered independent for the last 25 years. The current events are pushing me towards registering as a republican so I can help weed out RINOs in the primaries.

I guess I’m seeing things differently than you.


149 posted on 06/29/2007 6:42:50 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: A Strict Constructionist

They sure do seem determined to make it a done deal before 2008. After they get over this last loss - I have no doubt they will be putting their little pin-heads together & discussing how it was THE LITTLE PEOPLE that took them down.

I think we have our work cut out for us - they will be out to get THE LITTLE PEOPLE out of the picture now. I won’t be surprised to see Bush coming out in favor of the Fairness Doctrine next.


150 posted on 06/29/2007 6:43:02 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: Truth29

I SUPPORT W’S anti-terrorist fight and the liberation of Iraq although admittedly Iraq has had mistakes. I support his SCOTUS appointments so far.

I DO NOT SUPPORT W’S reckless overspending and his awful immigration bill.


151 posted on 06/29/2007 6:43:43 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: raybbr

Bush can not sh*t the money for the fence out his rear...he has to get the money from Congress which “we” all just told to go to H@ll till 2009.


152 posted on 06/29/2007 6:43:48 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: bert
Do not misunderestimate W

Ok. But it seems to me that the only thing conservataives have been guilty of for the last six years is overestimating him.
153 posted on 06/29/2007 6:44:17 AM PDT by newguy357
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To: azhenfud

The key now is taking the political reality of enforcement and making it a reality on the ground.

This will be key. And it’s hardly a done deal. But we have to begin. Sadly, we are really at the starting line.


154 posted on 06/29/2007 6:44:58 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: Guenevere

“We were hanging by a slim thread, and yet God spared us.....this time.”


Yep.


155 posted on 06/29/2007 6:45:19 AM PDT by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: gulfcoast6

I think he jumped ship on us . Whats to like about him anymore ? He out and out stabbed us in the back with this absurd immigration bill. Principles not personalities


156 posted on 06/29/2007 6:45:38 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: alicewonders
Bloody crap!!!! That site sent chills down my spine!

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It should. Please spread the word about it. They are planning the demise of our sovreignty and setting our kids up to live in the country formally known as America.

157 posted on 06/29/2007 6:46:12 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Earthdweller
Bush can not sh*t the money for the fence out his rear...he has to get the money from Congress which “we” all just told to go to H@ll till 2009.

He seemed to be able to sh*t money for Medicaid drugs, for No Child Left Behind, etc. But. For border security he get constipated.

If you can think back far enough Bush had a republican Congress and was able to sh*t money for all kinds of pork and government growth. But, still they became constipated over border security.

158 posted on 06/29/2007 6:46:32 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: goldstategop
President might have stood a better chance if he had pushed to reform Social Security. He never tried hard enough and its an opportunity really gone

Agreed, hosever we must also blame the gutless GOPers in Congress who were afraid to reform SS.

159 posted on 06/29/2007 6:46:38 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: MNJohnnie
Wishful thinking from the kneejerk Bush haters.

kneejerk? Most all of the people you would label "bush haters" used to be staunch bush supporters. There is no kneejerk reflex going on here. This is a long, reasoned conclusion built upon a long list of betrayals. The only thing kneejerk is the reaction of you lunatics who are so full of obsession for Bush that you wouldn't bad-mouth him if he formally adopted the democratic party platform--which he nearly has.
160 posted on 06/29/2007 6:47:23 AM PDT by newguy357
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