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Justices Limit the Use of Race in School Plans for Integration
New York Times ^ | June 29, 2007 | Linda Greenhouse

Posted on 06/29/2007 1:58:57 AM PDT by bhamlett

WASHINGTON, June 28 — With competing blocs of justices claiming the mantle of Brown v. Board of Education, a bitterly divided Supreme Court declared Thursday that public school systems cannot seek to achieve or maintain integration through measures that take explicit account of a student’s race.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: allprivateschools; busing; noob; nopublicschools; race; ruling; school; scotus; segregation; supremecourt
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The supreme court today ended reverse segregation–the practice of selecting students solely based on race–to attend a particular school to promote “diversity.”

While I enjoy meeting all different kinds of people, as a conservative, I cannot support a policy that selects students based upon race.

Both segregation and reverse segregation use the same means to achieve different ends, but the ends do not justify the means. Both actively select select students based solely upon race, one to promote diversity and one to promote uniformity. Certainly we are a sufficiently creative, intelligent society that we can develop a policy to promote diversity that doesn’t use reverse segregation. The Supreme Court made a good choice yesterday.

by Brad Hamlett http://bhamlett.wordpress.com

1 posted on 06/29/2007 1:58:58 AM PDT by bhamlett
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To: bhamlett; Sidebar Moderator

Read the forum guidelines before you post threads in Breaking News.


2 posted on 06/29/2007 2:06:20 AM PDT by indcons (Please call and thank Sens. Sessions, DeMint, and Vitter. They deserve our praise and gratitude.)
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To: bhamlett

1. They’re all in the HUMAN race. It’s intolerant to make a big deal over ethnicities....

2. Less busing means less carbon credits and pollution. It’s for the children!


3 posted on 06/29/2007 2:09:18 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: bhamlett
Justice Kennedy said achieving racial diversity, “avoiding racial isolation” and addressing “the problem of de facto resegregation in schooling” were “compelling interests” that a school district could constitutionally pursue as long as it did so through programs that were sufficiently “narrowly tailored.”

IOW, the lefty urban cesspools can segregate as long as they use an excuse other than race.

Their crafting new excuses as we speak and will have their talking points in the hands of the MSM quicker than you can say "segregation".

This ruling will be reduced to a token decision, IMO.
4 posted on 06/29/2007 2:54:11 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: bhamlett

Is Brown v. Board of Education the decision that allowed busing little kids all over the city to achieve “racial” diversity?


5 posted on 06/29/2007 4:09:14 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: bhamlett

To prevent duplication, please do not alter the title. Thanks.


6 posted on 06/29/2007 4:35:56 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: bhamlett

You greatly changed (and made inaccurate) the title of the thread. Also, posting an incorrect title makes it hard to check for duplicates.

Correct title

“Justices Limit the Use of Race in School Plans for Integration”

Quite different. “Limiting” is not the same as “ending.”

The court threw out these programs because they did not look at non-race remedies before using race. That opens the door to “look at” other remedies, decide they won’t work and go back to race based discrimination.


7 posted on 06/29/2007 4:37:08 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: bhamlett

Good. The unconstitutional abomination may just end.


8 posted on 06/29/2007 4:37:49 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: sergeantdave

>>Is Brown v. Board of Education the decision that allowed busing little kids all over the city to achieve “racial” diversity?<<

Not really. Brown was in 1951. It banned race based segregation. Before this, schools had gotten around the equal protection clause by claiming the schools were equal but segregated.


9 posted on 06/29/2007 4:39:44 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: indcons; bhamlett
Read the forum guidelines before you post threads in Breaking News.

Oh for heavens sake. Don't act like as if the thread poster committed a crime. The Admin moderater will surely remove it from breaking news if he finds it necessary

And since when can threads not be posted in breaking news?

10 posted on 06/29/2007 4:42:47 AM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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To: gondramB

I believe the folks who originally brought the suits were looking for equal resources, not to rub shoulders with white people.


11 posted on 06/29/2007 4:44:41 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!!!)
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It's about time that the Supreme Court understood what the early civil rights advocates were saying about equal access. Martin Luther King wanted a solution to this kind of situation: A white legacy student competes with a brilliant Black student for a spot in an Ivy League college. The white student is admitted. The Black student is rejected.

I believe that Martin Luther King wanted all students to have a fair shot if they deserved it. "Deserved it" being the operative words...

Busing ... no kidding 1st - 4th grade students in North East Oklahoma city in the 80s were being bused 1 hour each way per day in order to attend a traditionally white elementary school... What did these exhausted elementary school children gain from this hideous experience? Nothing... they were failing in every subject.

12 posted on 06/29/2007 4:45:08 AM PDT by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
IOW, the lefty urban cesspools can segregate as long as they use an excuse other than race.

You are correct. In Charlotte the courts struck down a similar lawsuit based on race even though the school district fought to keep race based busing.

What they are doing now in Charlotte is assigning students based on income. So you end up with the same racial quotas without using race as a criteria.

13 posted on 06/29/2007 4:51:47 AM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: bhamlett

The author is Linda Greenhouse. Why did you list yourself as author?


14 posted on 06/29/2007 4:53:18 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: brwnsuga

>>I believe the folks who originally brought the suits were looking for equal resources, not to rub shoulders with white people.<<

The reason that people talk about the Kansas case is that “there was no contention of gross inferiority of the segregated schools’ physical plant, curriculum, or staff.”

They were up against a 1896 Supreme Court precedent (Plessy v. Ferguson) which ruled that segregation on trains was legal because the cars were equal.

The Supreme Court, in Brown, reversed this 9-0 saying “separate educational facilities are inherently unequal.”


15 posted on 06/29/2007 4:53:48 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: xtinct

>>Busing ... no kidding 1st - 4th grade students in North East Oklahoma city in the 80s were being bused 1 hour each way per day in order to attend a traditionally white elementary school... What did these exhausted elementary school children gain from this hideous experience? Nothing... they were failing in every subject.<<

The great irony (well, one of the ironies) in busing is that one of the arguments in Brown was that kids were bing forced to ride busses to distant schools rather than attend neighborhood schools because they were the wrong color.


16 posted on 06/29/2007 4:56:09 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

You mean Martin Luther King may finally be getting his wish about people being judged by the content of their character, rather than the color of their skin?


17 posted on 06/29/2007 4:56:47 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: Kaslin

I think the issue was the ad-lib title which the moderator did correct.


18 posted on 06/29/2007 5:03:32 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Between the Lines
I teach in NC, too, and my school has been one of the schools in the county to have kids bussed in. It has been a really rocky two years—kids not wanting to be bussed in, kids not wanting to be bussed out.
Also, they have been giving teachers lots of (mandatory) “diversity training” programs, which basically have us all sit in the cafeteria to be told that some of our new kids are discipline problems because we are all secret racists. Even the black teachers! LOL!
Yes, I am actively looking for a new job—and more because of the compulsary “diversity training” rather than anything else! :)
19 posted on 06/29/2007 5:06:33 AM PDT by Rutabega (European 'intellectualism' has NOTHING on America's kick-a$$ism!)
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To: Kaslin; bhamlett

In case you don’t know, Kaslin, there was a recent thread where they specifically asked people to be careful about what was posted in breaking and frontpage news. Doing so, IMO, makes the kmods jobs slightly easier as they don’t have to go around yanking posts that should not have been on the sidebars. This is also called personal responsibility at the poster’s end.

Of course, I didn’t expect YOU to know that. All that you care about is the Daily Bot Central threads.


20 posted on 06/29/2007 6:43:28 AM PDT by indcons (Please call and thank Sens. Sessions, DeMint, and Vitter. They deserve our praise and gratitude.)
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