Cheney probed over salmon die off

Sacramento Bee Washington Bureau ^ | 11:46 am PDT Thursday, June 28, 2007 | David Whitney

[ElkGroveDan]

WASHINGTON - The House Natural Resources Committee announced Thursday that it will hold hearings into Vice President Dick Cheney's involvement in Klamath River water management that many think led to the die-off of more than 70,000 salmon four years ago.

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Three dozen House Democrats from Oregon and California asked for the hearing in a letter to Rahall after the Washington Post reported on details of Cheney's intervention.

[mass55th]

"Is Dick shootin’ salmon now?"

Oh no! Don't tell me Dick shot Salmon Rushdie?

[SMM48]

Yet another fishing expedition (pardon the pun). Time to Broom the whole damn bunch in DC.

[SierraWasp]

Replies 174-177 have a lot of good info. Did you find those flow charts yet?

[RichInOC]

Man...you have one bad day, one, and you never hear the end of it.

[rfp1234]

Great thread; it’s a wrap for tonight, so long & thanks for all the fish.

[rfp1234]

—Great thread; it’s a wrap for tonight, so long & thanks for all the fish.—

Oops - should be TANKS for all the fish.

[tubebender]

I see the article that started this thread is saying 70,000 fish died and I think that is inflated by 30,000.

Our very own Mikey Thompson is on the wagon with the rest of the witch hunters...

http://www.times-standard.com/local/ci_6250108

[tubebender]

This one is for you GD. Fish On! OCEAN IS BLACK WITH FISH

These fish are destined for the Klamath

[Grampa Dave]

Actually, I was talking about decades ago when 60 minutes wanted to interview me and I set up those requirements.

They found someone else who got fired because of the interview. He trusted them.

[jonrick46]

There was a effort to drive the farmers off their lands so that other interests could buy up cheap property from farmers who had to foreclose. By keeping the water from flowing down into the Klamath River Basin, farmer’s property values plummeted, families began to move away and local governments experienced tax revenue losses estimated at $640,000 – well over half a million dollars in just three months. Organizers created “bucket brigades” using buckets to mover water around the blocked water flow in protest of the environmentalist inspired policy. In a 2002 study commissioned by the Klamath Water Users Association, Dave Vogel, an experienced and respected fisheries biologist, reported preliminary findings indicating that fish endangerment was due to water temperature changes, not agricultural practices. It took the Bush Administration’s good common sense to restore irrigation water to the farms.

-———I had to bring you all a quick history behind this demonic enviro-wacko effort to attack the Bush Administration through Dick Cheney.

[Grampa Dave]

Good news.

Maybe fresh ocean king salmon will get below 10 $/pound. It started out at $20.

[Grampa Dave]

Thompson is a hit man for the left wing eco terrorists in a suit in DC.

[Ancesthntr]

Oh, right - how do you explain the wide range of dates from your examples?

Because Cheney's responsible for every ill our country suffers from - well, him and Bush. C'mon, you know that, don't you?

The utter idiocy of the DUmmies and envirowhackos never ceases to stun me - even when I think that they can't make themselves seem any more stupid or crazy, they come out with stuff like this. The Veep is responsible for a salmon die-off? What horsecrap!

[OKIEDOC]

I suppose that the Democrats think that constantly holding meetings, the American people will not figure out they have not done one damn thing to earn their high salaries off the American dole.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks.

I will try to give you a call tomorrow.

A friend needs some lessons with his two handed rod, and we need flowing water without tides.

[Grampa Dave]

“My recollection is the cool Trinity water release was just prior to the die off. The fish were schooled off the mouth of the Klamath and that cool water stimulated the Salmon to move into the lower river and hold there because the water was too warm above Weitchpec.

Then the BOR shut off the extra Trinity lake water and the lower Klamath warmed up trapping the fish. 40,000 salmon died and it is unknown how many had schooled up.”

Apparently that was a big factor.

They were schooled in the ocean and apparently there was a sand bar across the inlet.

The high and cold water flows cleared a path, and the fish thought that the fall rains had come. They swam upstream and got trapped when the Damn guys lower the extra flow.

Then, they got caught and weakened in low hot water with the possible addition of drug pollution.

[Grampa Dave]

Did you save those water flow graphs?

Sierra Wasp’s favorite river terrorists, the white water thugs wanted a nice high flow for the weekend.

[Grampa Dave]

Great data in this expose: “Here’s Vogel’s report debunking the DFG’s claim that flows from the Upper Basin were a primary factor

http://www.klamathbasincrisis.org/science/DFG%20report%20handout.pdf";

[CGVet58]

pinging Jeffhead -

oh, and for the record, I’d still rather go hunting with Dick Cheney then driving with Ted Kennedy.

and you can now add fishing to that list of “to-do’s” that I’d be happy to go on with my Vice-President.

CGVet58

[steelie]

As you can see this is up in Orleans.

The River had it's normal declining flows through july and August.

Don't forget that the area of Ah Pah creek is called the Crystal Palace due to meth production.

My friend the guide said you could smell it in the river while he fished the Lower Klamath.

The two pathogens are endemic in the klamath.

Water was held in the resevours and not allowed to be

filtered through the Klamath Basin wetlands. This coupled with a truly huge run of fish has a cascade effect on a large confined bunch of fish.