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The Amnesty Cloture Vote - In Order [Video of Brownback switching]
HotAir.com ^ | June 28, 2007 | AllahPundit

Posted on 06/28/2007 1:33:48 PM PDT by de meanr

The official roll breaks down the vote alphabetically, by state, and of course by vote. What it doesn’t do is tell you the order they voted in, which is critical to understanding (or at least inferring) motive. They’re supposed to vote in alphabetical order, but if they’re not present when the roll is called — or if they are present but would rather keep mum to see how things are shaking out — they get skipped, and can then approach the podium afterwards, when they see fit, to cast their ballot.

So here’s how it went, based on a once-through of the videotape. Boldface indicates Republicans, underline means they switched from yes on the cloture vote on Tuesday to no today. Forty members voted during the alphabetical roll. Note that fully six of them switched — and only five switches total were needed to kill the bill. The other fencesitters must have noticed, sensed the momentum, and recalibrated their own votes accordingly. The other notable is the Burr-Harkin-Pryor-Nelson run. They all voted no, all in succession, and were all switchers, which makes we wonder if they had an informal agreement among themselves.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; brownback; congress; deathofthegop; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; senatorlaraza; vampirebill
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This is a good description that shows the weasels, like Brownback, that changed their votes when they saw it wasn't going their way, and the weasels that waited to see how it was going to go.
1 posted on 06/28/2007 1:33:49 PM PDT by de meanr
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To: de meanr

Sad to see Brownback flipflop and not get it right the first time. He must be hearing the momentum storms for Fred passing him by a long time ago and wanted to attract a new voting segment. Uma, Oprah, Rudy, Sammy.


2 posted on 06/28/2007 1:36:47 PM PDT by KingLiberty (As 12th Imam I declare 'Give me liberty or give me. . . twins would be nice.')
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To: de meanr

Yes, still weasels.


3 posted on 06/28/2007 1:37:26 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Faith is believing in something when common sense tells you NOT to.)
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To: de meanr
Now is not the time to let up. we need to pressure our politicians to enforce the existing immigration laws including deporting illegal aliens, building the fence and prosecuting businesses who do business with illegal aliens. The link below is a ping list to pay attention for other questionable legislation being considered in Congress.

Keeping Track Of The Congress Critters
4 posted on 06/28/2007 1:38:30 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: KingLiberty

I got news for you Brownback. You are finished as a Presidential contender. You are not a leader. You are a follower. Go back to Kansas from whence u came.


5 posted on 06/28/2007 1:39:58 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: de meanr
Senator Switchback.

He needs Conservative Rehab.
6 posted on 06/28/2007 1:40:07 PM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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To: de meanr

I’m not sure it’s a good description about other than Brownback.

Some of the so called “switchers” indicated from the beginning they would vote “yes” to bring the bill to debate, and vote “no” on cloture so as to continue debate. It could be argued they are not switchers at all.


7 posted on 06/28/2007 1:40:57 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: de meanr
Stupid, or at least not well thought out, of Brownback to do this.

Voting “Yes” instantly got every conservative voter in America pissed as hell - and they will remember it, and every liberal/hispanic voter pissed off since he changed his vote to NO - and they will remember it.

Not well planned at all...

8 posted on 06/28/2007 1:41:10 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: de meanr

some of the others, like Coleman and Collins held back as well.

All in all, I am pleased with how *badly* it did on the final vote. This was no better than a month ago, and kills the bill ... for now.

Now we need to go back to ENFORCEMENT FIRST and get the Congress to put a narrower enforcement only bill together to start the ball rolling.

1. Build the fence
2. Fix the employer verification
3. Get US visit really implemented
4. Deport criminal aliens.

Take 24 months to do this and then we can discuss changing immigration law, ie replacing chain migration with merit immigration, etc.


9 posted on 06/28/2007 1:43:22 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! Call the Senators, tell them to vote "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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To: tennmountainman

“I got news for you Brownback. You are finished as a Presidential contender. You are not a leader. You are a follower. Go back to Kansas from whence u came.”

Dittos ... if he can’t handle how to decide a cloture vote, he is not fit to be Commander in Chief... (or “the decider”).


10 posted on 06/28/2007 1:44:43 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! Call the Senators, tell them to vote "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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To: de meanr

Posted for reference

(repost from previous threads)

Brownback Honored by National Council of La Raza {Flashback)
^ | February 27, 2002
http://brownback.senate.gov/pressapp/record.cfm?id=181388&&year=2002&;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1743169/posts

Former Pres. Clinton, KARL ROVE - Speakers at NCLR (LA RAZA)
Annual ConferenceNATIONAL COUNCIL OF LA RAZA
| Jun 21, 2006 | Diana Tejada
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1658410/posts
(See post 13, scheduled speakers for Monday July 10, 2006)


11 posted on 06/28/2007 1:45:05 PM PDT by VOA
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To: de meanr

Also Burr.

These RINOS need to apologize to Kerry who voted for the war before he voted against it.


12 posted on 06/28/2007 1:45:57 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: de meanr

Brownback, yellowbelly?


13 posted on 06/28/2007 1:48:51 PM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Greg F

LOL!


14 posted on 06/28/2007 1:49:48 PM PDT by de meanr (No Amnesty)
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To: de meanr

I’m simply STUNNED that one of my lib rat Senators voted NO and in the 1st round.

Unbelievable!


15 posted on 06/28/2007 1:52:33 PM PDT by ODC-GIRL (Proudly serving our Nation's Homeland Defense)
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To: ODC-GIRL

He’s one up on Brownback, who has entered the “I voted against it after I voted for it” realm . . .


16 posted on 06/28/2007 1:55:54 PM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Shermy
Some of the so called “switchers” indicated from the beginning they would vote “yes” to bring the bill to debate, and vote “no” on cloture so as to continue debate. It could be argued they are not switchers at all.

You understand that this was a scam position to give them cover. They figured that the bill would pass if it got past cloture and their 'no' vote would make them look good even though their 'yes' on cloture was what would have let the beast through the door in the first place. They were trying to have it both ways and got caught out when the citizens slapped the bill down.

17 posted on 06/28/2007 1:57:24 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck
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To: de meanr
Did Voinovich do the same thing? Someone on another thread stated that both Voinovich and Brownback did this, but he only showed up as the very last no vote at the end.
18 posted on 06/28/2007 1:59:27 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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To: tennmountainman

Being from Kansas, I have to live with Brownback as my senator for quite awhile, since he was re-elected just last year. I called his office last month to discuss his position on the immigration bill, and I know for a fact he supports it. His vote today was a weak attempt at gaining political cover by pretending to be on the right side of this issue.


19 posted on 06/28/2007 2:03:01 PM PDT by zacharycole
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To: WOSG
1. Build the fence
2. Fix the employer verification
3. Get US visit really implemented
4. Deport criminal aliens.

I couldn’t agree with you more! We need to remind those that did the right thing in the end, that we were watching and thank them. Then send to your congressmen and senators the following:

(US Citizenship and Immigration)

(U.S. Department of Labor)

These are just two of dozens of government sites to inform about our Laws for Labor and for becoming a Citizen. These are huge departments and very costly to the taxpayer……we are not getting our money’s worth yet Kennedy, Durbin, Reid, McCain, Boxer, Clinton, etc. tried like mad to make us accept more Bureaucracies and redundant laws……..we already have laws that are not being Enforced - DEMAND THEY BE ENFORCED!!

20 posted on 06/28/2007 2:03:46 PM PDT by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
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