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Illegals bill loses support in Senate [Washington Times]
The Washington Times ^ | July 28, 2007 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 06/27/2007 10:12:47 PM PDT by Oliver Optic

Illegals bill loses support in Senate

The Senate immigration bill lost supporters yesterday and hangs on by a thread heading into this morning's showdown vote, after lawmakers voted down amendments making illegal aliens show roots to get legal status and cutting off their path to citizenship.

This morning's vote is on a parliamentary question about limiting debate, but it boils down to a vote to block the bill.

Just two days ago, 64 senators voted to revive the bill, with many saying they wanted to give the Senate a chance to improve the bill through amendments. But after a messy day in the chamber yesterday, with dozens of objections, arguments on the floor and five amendments defeated, at least a half-dozen senators said publicly or privately that their patience has run out.

"The way this has been handled, I'm not going to take a leap of faith," said Sen. Richard M. Burr, North Carolina Republican, who voted to advance the bill on Tuesday but said the way Democratic leaders ran the floor yesterday left no room to "take a bad bill and make it better."

Sen. Ben Nelson, Nebraska Democrat, said he has voted to keep the bill moving a half-dozen times already on "cloture" votes, but yesterday's debate showed him the bill is probably unsalvageable.

"I've given them six or seven cloture votes," he said. "I think this clay pigeon is becoming a dead duck."

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We definitely have the momentum, but this thing is going to the wire.
1 posted on 06/27/2007 10:12:54 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: Oliver Optic
[Sen. Ben Nelson, Nebraska Democrat: "I've given them six or seven cloture votes," he said...."I think this clay pigeon is becoming a dead duck." ]

No senator. If you vote for this, YOU are a dead duck. No more qwacks for you.

2 posted on 06/27/2007 10:16:07 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Oliver Optic

Stop the New World (B)order!


3 posted on 06/27/2007 10:16:21 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: Oliver Optic

If your senator has felt your fire before, now it is time to give them an inferno. The rags are rattling about that this is done, time to get the fork, but insiders keep viewing tomorrow’s vote as being close, but one that will be a failure to protect this nation, a failure to punish the lawbreakers, a failure to do their sworn duty.


4 posted on 06/27/2007 10:16:54 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: Oliver Optic
"I think this clay pigeon is becoming a dead duck."

Fixed!

5 posted on 06/27/2007 10:17:41 PM PDT by Waryone (The Ted Kennedy wing of the Republican Party must be defeated!)
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To: Oliver Optic

Index


6 posted on 06/27/2007 10:18:26 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: kingu

Capitol Hill could see a phone/email meltdown of historic proportions tomorrow morning.


7 posted on 06/27/2007 10:18:37 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: Oliver Optic
"I've given them six or seven cloture votes," he said. "I think this clay pigeon is becoming a dead duck."

That could be the quote of the year. LOL

It sounds like some of them are coming to their senses.

8 posted on 06/27/2007 10:18:37 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Oliver Optic

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

9 posted on 06/27/2007 10:19:09 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Oliver Optic
Some Hispanic groups and union leaders pleaded with senators not to give up. "Failure is not acceptable," said Cecilia Munoz, a vice president at the National Council of La Raza. "The choice is between acting and not acting. For the Latino community, the only option is to act."

Remember how we were told in recent days that left-wing immigration advocacy groups were very reluctant about the bill, because it was purportedly so unfavorable to the immigrants?

Looks like that was just PR spin to try to make people think the bill was centrist. Now when the fate of the bill hands in the balance, La Raza is pleading for its passage.

10 posted on 06/27/2007 10:21:14 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Cacique

It ain’t over till the Hildabeast squeals

ok, bad visual... :p

Light up their fax machines, phones & emails!!!

Senator Jeff Bingaman (D-NM)
Chief of Staff
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Legislative Director
trudy_vincent@bingaman.senate.gov

Counsel
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Press Secretary/Communications Director
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Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Chief of Staff
laura_schiller@boxer.senate.gov

Legislative Director
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Press Secretary/Communications Director
natalie_ravitz@boxer.senate.gov

Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND)
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Legislative Director
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Press Secretary/Communications Director
chris_thorne@conrad.senate.gov
sean_neary@conrad.senate.gov

Senator Carl Levin (D-MI)
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Legislative Director
rich_arenberg@levin.senate.gov

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Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE)
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david_dimartino@bennelson.senate.gov

Senator Jim Webb (D-VA)
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paul_reagan@webb.senate.gov

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mike_sozan@webb.senate.gov

Press Secretary/Communications Director
jessica_smith@webb.senate.gov

Senator Kit Bond (R-MO)
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brian_klippenstein@bond.senate.gov

Legislative Director
kara_smith@bond.senate.gov

Communications Director
shana_marchio@bond.senate.gov

Senator Richard Burr (R-NC)
Chief of Staff
alicia_peterson-clark@burr.senate.gov
alicia_peterson-petersonclark@burr.senate.gov

Legislative Director
natasha_hickman@burr.senate.gov

Press Secretary/Communications Director
laura_caudell@burr.senate.gov
mark_williams@burr.senate.gov

Senator Thad Cochran (R-MS)
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jenny_manley@cochran.senate.gov

Legislative Director
ta_hawks@cochran.senate.gov

Press Secretary
margaret_wicker@cochran.senate.gov
Margaret_mcphillips@cochran.senate.gov

Senator John Ensign (R-NV)
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john_lopez@ensign.senate.gov

Legislative Director
pam_thiessen@ensign.senate.gov

Press Secretary/Communications Director
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jack_finn@ensign.senate.gov
don_tatro@ensign.senate.gov

Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Chief of Staff
joel_maiola@gregg.senate.gov

Legislative Director
nancy_perkins@gregg.senate.gov

General Counsel
christopher_gahan@gregg.senate.gov

Press Secretary/Communications Director
erin_rath@gregg.senate.gov

Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
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patricia_knight@hatch.senate.gov

Legislative Director
jace_johnson@hatch.senate.gov

Deputy LD
chris_campbell@hatch.senate.gov

Counsel
bill_castle@hatch.senate.gov

Press Secretary/Communications Director
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11 posted on 06/27/2007 10:21:33 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: Oliver Optic
Let's hope its a dead duck... like Jorge W. and Dingy Harry Reid!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 06/27/2007 10:22:37 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Oliver Optic

We can’t let it advance! We need a new bill, one that covers putting a wall along the ENTIRE border with NO strings attached. And then, we need a second bill that deports every single illegal immigrant, no strings attached.

President Bush and Senators: Stop trying to win new votes and actually do what must be done to protect our country!!!!!


13 posted on 06/27/2007 10:22:44 PM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: kingu

If the bill dies the next step is to pressure our arrogant, transnationalist, elected officials to actually enforce the immigration laws already on the books. All of ‘em. And then to rescind the anchor baby provision of the 1965 Immigration Act. Lotta work ahead of us.


14 posted on 06/27/2007 10:23:21 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: Oliver Optic
Thought this was interesting ... Coleman must be referring to the same "budgetary point of order" that Senator Bond was talking about on Hannity the other day.

Not to excuse Coleman at all ... but it sounds like in the event we lose tomorrow, there may be one more trench to fall back to in the Senate before we retreat to the House.

Praying it doesn't come to that ....

Not all senators consider this morning's vote the key showdown, and say if the bill survives, there are other chances to defeat it.

Sen. Norm Coleman, Minnesota Republican, said he plans to vote to proceed with the debate, but expects another 60-vote showdown on another parliamentary maneuver, known as a "point of order." Mr. Coleman said if the bill is not changed to his liking by then, he could join in voting to block it.


15 posted on 06/27/2007 10:24:06 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: Oliver Optic

To state that it lost support implies that it had support to begin with.


16 posted on 06/27/2007 10:24:45 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Oliver Optic
Illegals bill loses support in Senate

How refreshing for a newspaper to use the proper term. Although I would have used "Illegal Aliens Bill...".
17 posted on 06/27/2007 10:25:30 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudi & McVain: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: Cacique

And someone call George Bush and tell him to clean up the grafitti off the walls of our public library. I stop by my local library today to return some books, and the entire street facing side of the building, and the front entry, as well as a near by home and fences, have Mexican gang grafitti. So while you all are calling the Congress critters, call that do nothing but big spending Bush to get over here and clean up this grafitti off the walls of our public library. In fact, get his whole family over here, and all of his relatives to clean up this crap, it’s his fault.


18 posted on 06/27/2007 10:26:48 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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To: Oliver Optic
Sen. Norm Coleman, Minnesota Republican, said he plans to vote to proceed with the debate, but expects another 60-vote showdown on another parliamentary maneuver, known as a "point of order." Mr. Coleman said if the bill is not changed to his liking by then, he could join in voting to block it.
19 posted on 06/27/2007 10:27:15 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Oliver Optic

Hopefully the “kill-shot” will come tomorrow,,,till then...

Prayers Up for the USA...


20 posted on 06/27/2007 10:27:16 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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