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No Wafer for Rudy - Giuliani campaigns as a Catholic, but he's on the outs with God
Village Voice ^ | 6/26/07 | Wayne Barrett

Posted on 06/27/2007 12:52:57 PM PDT by madprof98

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1 posted on 06/27/2007 12:53:33 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98

“no wafer”, I could not even continue to read on after the title. Insulting.


2 posted on 06/27/2007 12:57:50 PM PDT by newconhere (bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. zap)
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To: madprof98

Perhaps his campaign theme song should be “I Ain’t Got No Body.”

(Obscure transubstantiation joke.)


3 posted on 06/27/2007 12:58:32 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: presidio9; Salvation; NYer; little jeremiah; wagglebee

Ping!


4 posted on 06/27/2007 1:00:31 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Sherman Logan

lol


5 posted on 06/27/2007 1:00:46 PM PDT by newconhere (bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. zap)
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To: madprof98

It seems strange that no one ever questions the status in the Church of Ted Kennedy or John Kerry. Guliani’s support for abortion is tepid in comparison and both Kennedy and Kerry have actively sought funding for abortion. I am certain that when Teddy Kennedy goes to the great gin mill in the sky he will be buried with full rites in the Church with at least a Bishop if not a Cardinal presiding.


6 posted on 06/27/2007 1:02:17 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Froufrou

Thanks for the ping. For Roody to campaign as a Catholic, or even Christian, is an afront to God.


7 posted on 06/27/2007 1:04:33 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: newconhere

“No wafer for you! Next!”

Yeah, I miss Seinfeld.


8 posted on 06/27/2007 1:14:53 PM PDT by soupcon
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To: madprof98
He can't have a confessor.

Bzzzt! Wrong answer. You can always go to confession. What you can't do is be absolved of your sin without taking real steps to give up the sin. That is, to renounce the irregular marriage(s) and practice chastity—that is, you can only have sexual relations with someone you're licitly married to.

Now, the quiz question would be: Who is Mr. Giuliani licitly married to? His first wife? I guess not, since that marriage was declared null (sacrament never really was conferred). Donna Hanover? (A scary thought.) Maybe, since it was never annulled, as far as I know. How about nobody?

Sheesh, Rudy. Straighten out your life and stop putting us through this!

9 posted on 06/27/2007 1:15:20 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: madprof98

NO ONE who supports abortion actively or passively is a Christian. An unrepentant murderer will not go to Heaven, end of story.


10 posted on 06/27/2007 1:16:04 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: newconhere
I agree, but you may want to read the article anyway. The Village Voice seems to grasp what some freepers cannot: Giuliani is not acceptable to most Catholic conservatives.
11 posted on 06/27/2007 1:21:06 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: newconhere
I could not even continue to read on after the title. Insulting.

The headline writer works for The Village Voice, the longtime NY entertainment and radical lefty paper. Abortion is their sacrament!

12 posted on 06/27/2007 1:22:38 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (A person who does not want the best for America)
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To: newconhere

Me too. That title is so offensive.


13 posted on 06/27/2007 1:46:53 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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“Married three times, Giuliani simply isn’t the Catholic candidate he claims to be. He can’t have a confessor. He can’t receive the sacraments of penance, the Eucharist, or marriage. “

Good gravy! You don’t know what you’re talking about. This is all UNTRUE. The church may choose to not recognize the marriage as being sanctified, particularly if a previous marriage was conducted within the church, but that doesn’t mean that a catholic is cut off from the church. Far from it, they are welcomed to remain in the church.

A politician is also immune from the abortion issue if it is the law of the land and they never voted on the original bill to make it into law. This is like blaming Giuliani if some woman in Topeka gets an abortion. Exactly how is that his fault?


14 posted on 06/27/2007 1:47:59 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: utahagen
Giuliani is not acceptable to most Catholic conservatives.

I thought about posting only excerpts because the piece is so long, but the whole thing makes it clear why nobody--conservative or otherwise--should trust this man. Just consider his favorite priest, a defrocked pedophile who now serves on his payroll. The man has character problems--bad, bad character problems. That's the point of the article.

15 posted on 06/27/2007 1:53:48 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: wagglebee

When did he ever campaign based on his religion?


16 posted on 06/27/2007 4:22:07 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick
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{Today, he says it would be “OK to repeal” Roe v. Wade, though he hosted celebrations of its anniversary three times at City Hall. His wholesale reversal on Medicaid funding, late-term abortions, and parental consent are all part of a repackaging}

Giuliani doesn’t hate abortion at all. He jsut hates to talk about in the primary. His answers on aboriton related questions change with the audience. In Feb 2007, he said he supported repealing the Mexico City Policy, a federal law that bars federal funds from being used to promote abortion overseas. In May 2007, on Laura Ingraham, he was asked about the Mexico City Policy. Rudy claimed he did not know what that law was. After Laura explained it to him, he said he supported the Mexico City Policy because it was on the books. A complete flip flop. After the interview, Rudy asked Laura not to ask hima bout social issues any more.


17 posted on 06/27/2007 4:26:36 PM PDT by Kuksool (Like Amnesty, then vote for Rudy Giuliani)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
When did he ever campaign based on his religion?

When did he ever campaign as a Republican?

18 posted on 06/27/2007 4:28:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Frequently. That was a rather silly question.


19 posted on 06/27/2007 6:21:51 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick
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To: NYC GOP Chick

What was so “silly” about this question? Roody’s politics are roughly in line with Joe Lieberman’s and Roody is actually to the left of Dick Gephardt and Tom Daschle.


20 posted on 06/28/2007 4:55:17 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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