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Accident Raises Safety Concerns On Chinese Tires
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 26, 2007 | Timothy Aeppel

Posted on 06/26/2007 10:52:03 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks to our President and Congress, we have globalism!! How special!! What’s a few American lives here and there? As long as the greedy, power hungry President and Congress get their payoff. To hell with us!!


21 posted on 06/26/2007 12:25:04 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Old_Mil

In its lawsuit, filed after FTS itself was sued in the wake of the fatal accident, the company accuses the tire maker of removing the safety feature — a 0.6-millimeter layer of rubber, known as a “gum strip,” which is added between the steel belts to give the tires added durability — without notifying the distributor.
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So they build tires with steel belts riding directly on other steel belts with no rubber strip in between... I can’t see how that could lead to heat buildup ... /sarc

I would not buy Chinese anytime it came to something I truly had to depend on ... as for tires I can tell you that the popular small motorcycles there all run on 20” tires ,,, the market there demands it ... you see that way the motorcycle taxi operators can install bicycle tires...

BTW Korea manufacturers make fine quality tires..


22 posted on 06/26/2007 12:26:47 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; RockinRight

Can’t they make anything right? ping...


23 posted on 06/26/2007 12:28:16 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; mom4kittys; LucyT; JACKRUSSELL

peiping


24 posted on 06/26/2007 12:44:22 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

All this is normal for the Chinese.

With a billion people, I’m sure these are just ways to ensure Chinese population control.


25 posted on 06/26/2007 1:02:19 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Conservatives are educated. Liberals are indoctrinated.)
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26 posted on 06/26/2007 1:39:46 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: Zhang Fei

>>>> When you contract out something to be built to a spec, you expect that spec throughout the contract.

It looks like this Chinese company decided that it was OK to substitute an inferior product <<<<<

>>>> Shi Xinbo, an official at Hangzhou Zhongce, said, “We are confident in our quality. <<<<<

Nope they put out a quality product Shi Xinbo even said so.

Want to know how this works?

We can all thank the ISO 9000 BS.

How do you define quality? Well in ISO 9000 a Quality Product is one that meets it’s engineering specifications.

Did ya Catch that?

So it’s tire’s are a quality product. See. So when something don’t work right you use the volume of words in the ISO chapters to blame some low level worker. Then claim to have fixed the problem by terminating ( in this case literally) the worker.

And who runs the ISO standard? The French.


27 posted on 06/26/2007 2:26:50 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: CT102ndInfSister

>>> Unfortunately, unless the only food you eat is pulled from the ground in your garden <<<<

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And when you ask “ Is this made in China?”

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not reporting customer’s question
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Some of you may think this is great. But what about When it’s applied to China.

Just Something more to think about


28 posted on 06/26/2007 2:40:07 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: quietolong
Want to know how this works? We can all thank the ISO 9000 BS. How do you define quality? Well in ISO 9000 a Quality Product is one that meets it’s engineering specifications. Did ya Catch that? So it’s tire’s are a quality product. See. So when something don’t work right you use the volume of words in the ISO chapters to blame some low level worker. Then claim to have fixed the problem by terminating ( in this case literally) the worker. And who runs the ISO standard? The French.

You got that right. The amusing thing is that for a while, Chinese restaurants (in China) were putting up banners claiming that they were ISO 9000 compliant, whatever that meant. And you know what? I still got the runs from eating there. I've since learned to take Chinese product claims with a healthy dose of salt.

29 posted on 06/26/2007 6:06:39 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ah, so solly.


30 posted on 06/27/2007 8:50:07 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ( “A nation without borders is not a nation.” —Ronald Reagan)
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To: Old_Mil
W0W! That is a great quote.

Much of what passes for "capitalism" nowadays is just plain wrong and should be illegal in a free country.
31 posted on 06/27/2007 9:03:32 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: NRA2BFree
I have finally decided how we can fight globalism. We can sue the b@$tards. Not the Chinese, the "American" company who does business in or with China.

Just like this business is going to be put out of business simply because they chose to do business with China, we can put other companies out of business when things go wrong, as they inevitably will.

We can use their greed against them by convincing them that it is just too expensive and risky to do business in or with China. Juries will easily find against such a company and award major damages just on general principle. If a component of a piece of a part of the product came from China, so sad, too bad, you're out of luck and out of business. Better to play it safe and make your product totally in America.
32 posted on 06/27/2007 9:32:20 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Not surprising


33 posted on 06/27/2007 9:33:48 AM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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To: Zhang Fei

>Yangzhou may have saved itself millions or even tens of
>millions of dollars by omitting that feature. But it has just
>dealt itself out of the US market.

No it hasn’t.

It will simply subcontract with a willing middleman who the American distributor buys from instead because of the low price.


34 posted on 06/27/2007 10:10:44 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
More consequences of phoney "free trade". In a true market situation...the costs of the bad tires would already have forced the reliance on the Chinese suppliers to be terminated. But FTS top honchos must be simply planning on obsconding with its loot, and filing the company in banko. Then starting it all over again.


35 posted on 06/27/2007 11:02:21 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Dark Wing
No it hasn’t. It will simply subcontract with a willing middleman who the American distributor buys from instead because of the low price.

I know a few people in the import export business. Anyone who buys hundreds of thousands of any product will want to see the plant. Following this debacle, they will also randomly test batches to make sure they're up to spec, passing on added the cost to the customer. But it's the price importers will have to pay for the liability coverage without which they can't be in business.

36 posted on 06/27/2007 11:28:44 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The only people who are going to be able to make a living are the Lawyers who will be suing the snot out of Chinese importers and the health care professionals who will be scraping us up from the pavement to either heal or bury us.


37 posted on 06/27/2007 11:37:29 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: quietolong

Hey thank you! Awesome information... I’ll pass it on!


38 posted on 06/28/2007 12:05:31 AM PDT by CT102ndInfSister
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