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Viva McCain? Will immigration finish him off?
NRO ^ | 6/26/07 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 06/26/2007 10:37:11 AM PDT by freespirited

The good news for John McCain’s presidential campaign is opposing campaign strategists do not think that this week’s expected Senate vote on a comprehensive immigration-reform bill will kill the Arizona senator’s chances at the White House.

The bad news is these rival advisers believe McCain’s chances are already dead.

“Even if you don’t accept the idea that McCain is doomed, and you don’t believe the reports that he’ll be out in September, by the time you get to the point where you want to put up negative ads — which won’t be until November, December — is McCain really still going to be your competition?” said an adviser to one rival. “If these polls are accurate, and he’s slipping to fourth or fifth, you don’t really get much out of hitting McCain.”

Reports of McCain’s political death may be greatly exaggerated. The candidate’s only fifth-place finish was one poll in Iowa by Mason-Dixon. In the RealClearPolitics averages, McCain is third nationally at 15 percent, third in Iowa at 16.6 percent, tied for second in New Hampshire with 17.7 percent, and second in South Carolina at 17.5 percent. While he’s clearly lost some ground, he’s by no means dead in the water.

The McCain campaign is taking their lumps, and accepted the criticism and poll slump as part of the price for the stand their candidate has chosen.

“The immigration issue shows that yet again Sen. McCain places doing what’s right above doing what’s political,” said Patrick Hynes, a political strategist with McCain’s PAC, Straight Talk America. “It makes you wonder what any of these candidates would say if they were to make it to the general election. Would they continue to embrace their newfound enforcement-only positions? Or would they change their positions yet again to win support from the more moderate general election electorate?”

Perhaps most surprisingly, McCain’s rivals may be eager to get the immigration issue out of the headlines.

“I don’t know how much shelf-life this issue has for Republicans,” the rival strategist says. “This was Karl Rove’s brilliant idea to permanently cement the Hispanic vote to the Republican base. Well, so far, all we’ve seen it do is aggravate Hispanics and divide our base. The longer we’re talking about this issue, the deeper we’re digging this hole. And where the hell is McCain? He threw our party into this briar patch. He makes the deal with Kennedy, creating this mess, and then he’s out on the campaign trail raising money.”

McCain may not see many barbs from other candidates, as talk radio, bloggers, and conservative critics will take the lead in lashing him if the immigration deal passes. Rudy Giuliani, as the frontrunner in most polls, will have little motive to go negative on someone who trails him.

Giuliani’s campaign said Monday that so far, the candidate had laid out his criticisms of the bill, but not about any particular supporter.

Fred Thompson has criticized the deal without going after his former colleagues and friends like McCain.

Mitt Romney has largely tried to ignore attacks and criticism from the McCain campaign, perhaps not eager to invite another back-and-forth that he has flip-flopped on the issue.

It cannot help McCain that on Monday’s Rush Limbaugh radio show, the host noted three recent news items relevant to his livelihood — Trent Lott’s lament that talk radio is “running the country,” and “needs to be dealt with,” a recent report by a liberal group declaring talk radio is overwhelmingly conservative, and reports that Democratic senators want to reintroduce the Orwellian “Fairness Doctrine” — before introducing a fake ad for “The Coalition of Weak-Kneed Republicans.”

The fake ad featured a pitch from a Trent Lott impersonator to ban talk radio. The faux-Lott declared, “Without talk radio, you can listen to a Spanish-language station, and it’s a great time to brush up on your language skills.” After that statement, listeners heard a sound of a radio dial turning through static, and then accented voices shouting “Viva McCain! Viva McCain!”

Still, arguments like that one make some Republican message gurus, even those opposed to the bill, a bit nervous about the general election.

“Symbolism of this bill may be more important than substance,” says the rival strategist. He laments that the debate on the Republican side is turning into who can most vehemently denounce illegal immigrants, and to Hispanic ears, it may sound hostile to all immigrants, regardless of their legal status. “Sometimes it’s not the words that people hear, but the theme music in the background.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bushkennedy; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; mccain
“This was Karl Rove’s brilliant idea to permanently cement the Hispanic vote to the Republican base.

Rove is almost as delusional as McAmnesty. He and Bush are doing major damage to the party.

1 posted on 06/26/2007 10:37:13 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited
Viva McCain. Will Immigration finish him off?

One can only hope!

2 posted on 06/26/2007 10:40:58 AM PDT by mort56
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To: mort56

I bet Brownback just ruined his awesome chances of being elected. /sarc


3 posted on 06/26/2007 10:51:47 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: freespirited

Yup. Juano McCain is done.

4 posted on 06/26/2007 11:01:16 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Confidence in Congress has hit an all-time low of 14%)
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To: freespirited
I’m wondering how the few remaining Bushbots on FR are going to spin this as a victory for Conservatism?
5 posted on 06/26/2007 11:04:08 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Sig Sauer P220

He certainly did. I’m staying a republican long enough to vote in the primary so I can vote against him!


6 posted on 06/26/2007 11:14:24 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Sunshine Sister

Stick a fork in him.


7 posted on 06/26/2007 11:27:33 AM PDT by CT (http://www.imwithfred.com)
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To: freespirited
Rove and McCain are both political morons.

Rove became a political genius in the same way that Hillary became the “smartest woman in America” — by way of vacuous claims of kiss-ass supporters -

Repeated in Rove’s case by people that lost to “W” and needed an excuse for their loss that maintained their self respect; and repeated in Hillary’s case by a fawning leftist press.

It’s still BS, no matter who repeats it.

8 posted on 06/26/2007 11:30:11 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: freespirited

9 posted on 06/26/2007 11:33:38 AM PDT by picard (The Sphinx and Pyramids are an abomination to Allah! They must be destroyed!)
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To: freespirited
"Viva McCain? Will immigration finish him off?"

Stick a fork in him. He's already done. Along with the Republican party and soon, the country, as well.

Sorry, but I don't think for one minute that Karl Rove is delusional or that the Republican party elites ever had any other intention than the one that is about to unfold. We've been had BIG TIME (as Cheney would say) but what was our other choice? NONE!

10 posted on 06/26/2007 11:49:12 AM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: freespirited
The bad news is these rival advisers believe McCain’s chances are already dead.

Sounds like the good news to me.

11 posted on 06/26/2007 12:09:29 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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His nomination, if it is happens, will destroy the Republican Party and elect Hillary. No loyal, patriotic American could vote for him.


12 posted on 06/26/2007 12:14:06 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: freespirited

Ok so Rove now has the f-ing illegal and hispanic vote, He has lost my conservative vote, respect and loyalty to this president.
A penny on mine will not go to a republican.
Mel Martinez and the g.o.p. can kiss my behind.
But hey illegals are more important.


13 posted on 06/26/2007 12:14:31 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: freespirited
It boggles the mind that Karl Rove thinks the illegals that will gain citizenship under this bill will vote Republican. He is living in a fantasy land.

I have been following politics for 50 years and have never seen anything like this.

14 posted on 06/26/2007 12:25:33 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: freespirited
Will immigration finish him off?

Hopefully, something does.

15 posted on 06/26/2007 12:27:05 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: TexasCajun; MNJohnnie
I’m wondering how the few remaining Bushbots on FR are going to spin this as a victory for Conservatism?

I dunno, let's ask MNJohnnie! LOL!

Johnnie, is this a victory for Conservatism?

16 posted on 06/26/2007 12:29:33 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: freespirited

Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Toll free to the US Senate:

1-800-882-2005. (Spanish number)
1-800-417-7666. (English number)

Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!


17 posted on 06/26/2007 5:03:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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