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'Bong hits' ruling sides with district {WITH PICTURES}
Juneau Empire | June 26, 2007 | GREG SKINNER

Posted on 06/26/2007 10:16:44 AM PDT by skeptoid

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Doug Mertz, the Juneau attorney who argued the case of former student Joseph Frederick, said the court allowed a free-speech issue to be turned into a drug debate.
"This is an extremely dangerous precedent," Mertz said. "This is the first time a subject matter is outside the protection of the First Amendment."

Mertz said he and Frederick would confer about a final option, referring the case to the Alaska Supreme Court.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bong; bonghits4jesus; scotus; yesterdayonfr
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The attorney thinks it's not over yet!

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THE PERP

Joseph Frederick

THE LAWYER

Brian Wallace / Juneau Empire
Taken down: Doug Mertz, attorney for former Juneau-Douglas High School student
Joseph Frederick, stands Monday next to his client's "Bong Hits 4 Jesus" banner.
In a 5-4 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Juneau School District
was within its rights to suppress the banner.

THE HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL

Deborah Morse

THE ACTUAL CRIME!

Photo Courtesy of Clay Good Source of controversy: Juneau-Douglas High School students hold a "Bong Hit 4 Jesus" banner across from the school in 2002 during the Olympic Torch relay through Juneau.

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1 posted on 06/26/2007 10:16:48 AM PDT by skeptoid
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To: skeptoid

Hm. Call me old fashioned, but I do not think kids at school should have unlimited free speech rights. Just my opinion.

Just as kids should not be free to do anything they like.


2 posted on 06/26/2007 10:19:25 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Cagey

Oh please. if my son participated in this, i’d grab him by the hair of the head, just a little pinch of it, so it would sting, and march him around, while i talked to him.
What a pretentious, self important little jerk he is.


3 posted on 06/26/2007 10:20:18 AM PDT by Shimmer128
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To: rlmorel

The banner was not displayed on school property. I heard it was just across the street.


4 posted on 06/26/2007 10:22:07 AM PDT by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBS (with clusters))
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To: Shimmer128
As 'rhombus' posted on this subject yesterday:

YOU DON'T NEGOTIATE WITH TERROISTS OR TEENAGERS.

5 posted on 06/26/2007 10:25:14 AM PDT by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBS (with clusters))
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To: skeptoid

Yes, but it was a “school sponsored event” where they were taken out to the street to watch the olympic torch go by. I guess they were allowed to make banners to be held up as the torch passed.


6 posted on 06/26/2007 10:27:09 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (There once was a dream called, "Hippy Beat Down." The mere whisper of if caused cops to cry)
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To: rlmorel

I respect this principal for standing up to this “young man”. She is probably catching all sorts of grief... We should send her notes of encouragement for her willingness to stand up in spite of public criticism.


7 posted on 06/26/2007 10:28:17 AM PDT by cjohnson1
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To: skeptoid

It was across the street. Somehow the SCOTUS has determined that because all the kids across the street were students of the school, that they had transported themselves to the school zone, and were standing across the street with the banner facing school property and deliberately attracting attention to it (and themselves) then they were at a school function and subject to the school rules.


8 posted on 06/26/2007 10:28:25 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: skeptoid

I read that this kid has had some run ins with the law regarding MJ possession. But no, he wasn’t promoting drug use.


9 posted on 06/26/2007 10:30:54 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Shimmer128

“Oh please. if my son participated in this, i’d grab him by the hair of the head, just a little pinch of it, so it would sting, and march him around, while i talked to him. “.

THANK YOU!! That’s what’s wrong with kids these days… there’s not enough discipline anymore! My son is 23 years old and 6’2” , I’m a 5’ 4”, 47 year old woman and I’d still knock the living you know what out of him if he were to do something like this! But that’s why my son wouldn’t do something like this.


10 posted on 06/26/2007 10:32:06 AM PDT by cjohnson1
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To: skeptoid

Did you know that many people in many countries smoke TOBACCO in a bong? WE do! We got a chocolate coconut tobacco and we put lime juice in the water and it tastes like dessert. Makes it much COOLER to the throat.


11 posted on 06/26/2007 10:32:32 AM PDT by buffyt (Passing the Amnesty Bill to Protect American Borders & make us safer is like "F*#@ing for Chastity!")
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To: cjohnson1

I am 56.... Like the boy who MOONED his teacher, bared his butt to do it, and was sent to a different school and his parents SUED TO GET HIM BACK INTO THAT SCHOOL. If I had done THAT in high school - 1960s - I would still be unable to SIT DOWN due to the beating I would have gotten. Like the old song Silence is Golden, but my ears still ring...
I think I would still be singing
But my REAR STILL STINGS!!!!!!


12 posted on 06/26/2007 10:34:33 AM PDT by buffyt (Passing the Amnesty Bill to Protect American Borders & make us safer is like "F*#@ing for Chastity!")
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To: skeptoid

Let me get this staight, Liberal justices believe that signs promoting illegal activity is protected Free Speech but political ads are not Free Speech??????


13 posted on 06/26/2007 10:36:07 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig; theDentist

So-o-o.... they were actually escorted or directed to go across the street by school staff (to view this ‘very special event’)?


14 posted on 06/26/2007 10:36:25 AM PDT by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBS (with clusters))
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To: Always Right

It does seem to be so.


15 posted on 06/26/2007 10:38:45 AM PDT by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBS (with clusters))
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To: Always Right

What, do you find that confusing?


16 posted on 06/26/2007 10:38:49 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: skeptoid

They likely met at that spot or at the school and stepped across the street.


17 posted on 06/26/2007 10:41:47 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: skeptoid

How do we know the yout wasn’t making a statement about the illegal Mexican drug trade (Hey-zeus)?


18 posted on 06/26/2007 10:42:38 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Shimmer128

Do you not think pretentious, self-important little jerks ought to be protected by the First Ammendment? Who gets to decide who is a pretentious, self-important little jerk?


19 posted on 06/26/2007 10:45:23 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: skeptoid

It was during school hours, while they were “at” school. A child on a field trip is still “at” school.


20 posted on 06/26/2007 10:47:39 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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