Posted on 06/26/2007 8:47:27 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
According to Republican polling and strategy firm The Tarrance Group(1), currently engaged in strategic polling for Rudy Giuliani, 47 house members, 10 senators and 5 governors, - more than 70% of Americans support the current Senate Comprehensive Immigration Reform efforts, referred to by most Americans as “amnesty”.
Once again, we learn that it’s all in how you frame the question…
When CNN recently asked if we favored or opposed the senate immigration reform bill, 47% said they oppose, 30% favored and 22% remained unsure, proving mostly that CNN viewers just aren’t that bright. (Just kidding – but 22% unsure?)
The point is, - the Tarrance Group poll must have asked questions that no other polling firm asked in order to come up with the answers they are reporting to your senate Republicans.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsbyus.com ...
Our politicians are hitting us with the big lie.
Its evident they have no fear of an elective backlash.
They are pulling out all the stops to sell us out.
There must be a ton of money rolling into Congress for this to be happening.
No Senator could be stupid enough to believe this poll. If they are they are too stupid to represent America. Vote out all incumbents. The hell with party. If they are incumbents they have to go.
Williams gets it EXACTLY right!
“Well there you have it. If you tell people that it’s not amnesty, they like it! However, is this a realistic interpretation of true American sentiment on the subject of immigration reform? If so, why are so many Americans working so hard to shut the effort down in congress?
Is it true that the average American is just too stupid to know what amnesty is all about? Or, did talk radio simply wind up a bunch of racist malcontents and send them marching to Washington under the false impression that certain senators were attempting to ram amnesty for illegals through congress? Is Bush right, that average Americans just don’t understand such complex issues and the need for comprehensive solutions?
Bush wants you to know “the facts” that drive his quest for amnesty. So, the White House has issued their Immigration Fact Check: Responding to Key Myths for your consideration.(2)
However, after writing on this subject numerous times over the last few years, and more importantly, reading tons of related reader mail and blog comments, in numbers far greater than the 400 used in the Tarrance survey, my interpretation of voter sentiment on the matter is quite different.
Allow me to summarize what I am hearing from the American people…
* Americans want enforcement first, period!
* Americans want the borders closed and permanently secured.
* They want the problem stopped at the 12-20 million already here before discussing anything else.
It is just that simple. This is what most Americans are saying, in case anyone cares.”
(snip)
“They have only a few conditions for those here illegally who wish to remain.
* No voting rights, EVER!
* Come out of the shadows, assimilate into American culture, leave your Mexican flag in Mexico
* Pay your fines and back taxes
* No criminal or gang activities or you are headed back home immediately
* Get temporary legal status, while you wait in line with all legal immigrants for permanent status
* No tax-payer funded benefits or assistance of any kind
* No more illegals allowed under any circumstances”
can anyone confirm the Senators have now stopped taking phone calls?
One poster reported Arlen Specter’s office hangs up immediatly upon hearing the word “immigration.”
Have senators now started REFUSING to listen to the voters?!
Yep!
Even my "moderate" friends who moved to Northern Va. from the blue states are adamantly opposed to the amnesty bill.
Perhaps the pollsters' sample size is biased towards illegal Mexicans, felons in prisons, and retired Senators?
There. Fixed the title for ya.
There. Fixed the title for ya.
Reminds me of
Figures don’t lie.... But, liars figure
* Americans want enforcement first, period!
* Americans want the borders closed and permanently secured.
* They want the problem stopped at the 12-20 million already here before discussing anything else.
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That's it for me!! Screw Comprehensive Immigration Reform!
SECURE OUR BORDERS FIRST!!
Reform Immigration Second!
Looks like it. I've called Warner and Webb at all hours of the day & night and can't even get voicemail.
I am however, willing to let border security do their job, including with extreme prejudice if need be, with the help of our military if that’s what it takes.
SECURE our border and spend at least as much as we are spending to secure Iraq...
I did not get through to a single DC office of ANY Senator this morning, I did get through to a few branch offices.
btw, someone should warn Republicans in the House that use this birdbrain outfit about how misinterpreting public opinion can be dangerous to their careers.
http://www.tarrance.com/whowedoitfor/politicallist.html
(list of Reps they consult for)
US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
BRIAN BILBRAY, CA
MIKE BILIRAKIS, FL
JOHN BOEHNER, OH
GINNY BROWN-WAITE, FL
HOWARD COBLE, NC
BARBARA CUBIN, WY
JOHN CULBERSON, TX
GEOFF DAVIS, KY
CHARLIE DENT, PA
MARY FALLIN, OK
TOM FEENEY, FL
PHIL GINGREY, GA
DEAN HELLER, NV
DAVE HOBSON, OH
STEVEN KING , IA
TOM LATHAM, IA
STEVE LATOURETTE, OH
FRANK LOBIONDO, NJ
JOHN McHUGH, NY
JOHN MICA, FL
DEVON NUNES, CA
JOHN PETERSON, PA
TOM PETRI, WI
CHIP PICKERING, MS
ADAM PUTNAM, FL
DEBORAH PRYCE, OH
GEORGE RADANOVICH, CA
JIM RAMSTAD, MN
TOM REYNOLDS, NY
HAL ROGERS, KY
JIM SAXTON, NJ
JEAN SCHMIDT, OH
BILL SHUSTER, PA
CHRIS SMITH, NJ
JOHN SULLIVAN, OK
ZACH WAMP, TN
They must be from South and Central America.
I’d believe 70% of the illegals want it.
Well, this explains a lot.
quote
ot all, but most Americans will be willing to discuss alternative measures for dealing with those already here in a reasonable fashion, once they are convinced that no more are coming! They have only a few conditions for those here illegally who wish to remain.
* No voting rights, EVER!
* Come out of the shadows, assimilate into American culture, leave your Mexican flag in Mexico
* Pay your fines and back taxes
* No criminal or gang activities or you are headed back home immediately
* Get temporary legal status, while you wait in line with all legal immigrants for permanent status
* No tax-payer funded benefits or assistance of any kind
* No more illegals allowed under any circumstances
These conditions mirror those of Mexican immigration laws by the way…
You would see support for this bill dry up rather quickly if the first condition — no voting rights ever — was tacked on as an amendment. Where is the brave senator who will do that?
That they have to lie and spin in order to get the response they want is sickening.
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