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What a great way to start up another round of the old "was the 16th amendment really ratified" argument. Enjoy!
1 posted on 06/26/2007 6:50:49 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
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“have threatened violence against federal officials if marshals come to arrest them”

I respect their stand against taxation, and Mr. Paul’s support of them, but comments that they will lead to violence in the end are not to be supported. It is too bad that we can not get the support against excess taxation and wasteful spending together that the illegals do.


2 posted on 06/26/2007 6:52:54 AM PDT by ritewingwarrior
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I’ll skip that argument for now. I’ll just say I don’t remember reading about Gandhi or King saying they’d kill anyone. Oh, and Ron Paul is looking more loopy every day. I guess the best I can say about him is that he hasn’t made campaign videos where he stares into the camera for 2-3 minutes.


3 posted on 06/26/2007 6:55:02 AM PDT by TexasAg1996
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The Browns are holed up in their Plainfield (New Hampshire) home and have threatened violence against federal officials if marshals come to arrest them.

My understanding is that they've said they would defend themselves if the feds storm their house. They haven't threatened anyone. Warned yes, but that's different.
4 posted on 06/26/2007 6:56:04 AM PDT by Stevieboy
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I was actually surprised Ron Paul didn’t announce this sooner. Is he going to announce next that he’s pro-choice too?
5 posted on 06/26/2007 6:56:40 AM PDT by pnh102
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8 posted on 06/26/2007 7:04:01 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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Far be it from me to interrupt the Ron Paul bashing but where is the actual quote he said this?
11 posted on 06/26/2007 7:28:02 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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This news article does not have the actual quote of what Ron Paul said. Any chance you can find a link to a transcript, full or partial?


13 posted on 06/26/2007 7:41:01 AM PDT by ikka
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threatened violence against federal officials

Yeah Buddy! That's the Gandhi I remember. Paul is an idiot.

16 posted on 06/26/2007 7:46:05 AM PDT by chesty_puller (Old burned-out Marines for Fred.)
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this means you watched the interview and you know for a fact that he praised these people?


17 posted on 06/26/2007 7:50:45 AM PDT by Abcdefg
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“In an interview with RogueGovernment.com, the Texas congressman compares the Browns to Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King Junior. He says the Browns are suffering like those leaders.”

Kook, thy name is Paul!


20 posted on 06/26/2007 8:32:12 AM PDT by Grunthor (Once a cobra bit Fred Thompsons' leg. After five days of excruciating pain, the cobra died.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; y'all
Sure, the 16th was ratified, but that doesn't make it a Constitutional law.

The taxing power of the federal government was limited in the Constitution:

"No capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken."

"- There is no tax that can be more properly described as "direct" than an income tax. In order to get around this prohibition in the Constitution, the Lincoln administration arbitrarily declared its income levy an "excise" tax, and the Supreme Court upheld this perversion of language in a decision rendered in 1868; showing that the art of proving a point by changing a definition was practiced long before the discovery of the modern "science" of semantics.

Reinforcing the prohibition of a direct tax is the requirement that taxes shall be levied in proportion to the population. The meaning is clear: that in respect to the law all citizens are to be considered equal, as persons, and should be taxed accordingly; their possessions have nothing to do with their legal status. A man who has acquired (presumably by honest methods) a large amount of wealth is legally on a par with the one less fortunate or less proficient.

The dictum that "all men are created free and equal" held in the matter of taxes as it did in the matter of social stratification; the Constitution recognized no caste system. No one, and no group, could be singled out by the government for special spoliation.

The ability-to-pay doctrine proceeds from a direct violation of this principle of equality.
It establishes a legal classification of society.
It sets up a principle of government that was not contemplated when this nation was formed; it is a reversion to the caste system that had existed in Europe.

The easy argument that is used to slide this caste idea into our law is that those who are rich became so because they enjoy more of the benefits of government and therefore ought to pay more of its expenses.
Is that so? Did the government make them rich? -"

Income taxation as practiced is unconstitutional both in principle and in its enforcement.

22 posted on 06/26/2007 8:42:53 AM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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I’ll have to look at the article/quote. Guess Reagan’s 11th commandment has been tossed out the window. The tenor of the anti-Paul crowd sounds like a piglet being pulled off the teat.


37 posted on 06/26/2007 1:46:34 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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A great way for Ron Paul to lose any hope of getting my vote....


38 posted on 06/26/2007 1:47:04 PM PDT by eraser2005
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Well. When you think about it a President could eliminate the income tax unilaterally by simply pardoning all tax evaders. It wouldn’t be a bad idea.


40 posted on 06/26/2007 1:53:04 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (Fred!)
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Go Ron Paul!No more IRS!


46 posted on 06/26/2007 5:15:29 PM PDT by taxtruth
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Aren’t all tax evaders covered by the new Illegal Amnesty bill in the Senate.
48 posted on 06/26/2007 5:28:55 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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The income tax amounts to 1/3 of all taxes. We limit government the way it should, and the income tax wouldn’t be necessary.

This is where conservatism is getting killed though. 50% of us pay 96% of all income taxes. We are in a a system where general welfare is an enumerated power and half of the population doesn’t pay income tax.

And then we wonder why spending can’t be controlled and oru party keeps moving left.

I’m liking Dr. Paul more and more actually!


51 posted on 06/26/2007 9:40:14 PM PDT by eboyer
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