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Exotic cause of 'Pioneer anomaly' in doubt
NewScientist.com ^ | 22 June 2007 | David Shiga

Posted on 06/26/2007 5:59:25 AM PDT by BGHater

The 'Pioneer anomaly' – the mystifying observation that NASA's two Pioneer spacecraft have drifted far off their expected paths – cannot be explained by tinkering with the law of gravity, a new study concludes.

The study's author suggests an unknown, but conventional, force is instead acting on the spacecraft. But others say even more radical changes to the laws of physics could explain the phenomenon.

Launched in the early 1970s, NASA's Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft are drifting out of the solar system in opposite directions, gradually slowing down as the Sun's gravity pulls back on them.

But they are slowing down slightly more than expected and no one knows why. Some physicists say the law of gravity itself needs revising, so that gravity retains more strength in the outer solar system. But there has been disagreement about whether such modifications would accurately predict the orbits of the outer planets.

Now, Kjell Tangen, a physicist at the firm DNV in Hovik, Norway, says tweaking the law of gravity in a variety of ways cannot explain the anomaly – while also getting the orbits of the outer planets right. After modifying gravity in ways that would match the Pioneer anomaly, he inevitably got wrong answers for the motion of Uranus and Pluto.

Conventional explanation

(Excerpt) Read more at space.newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: gravity; nasa; pioneer; space; stringtheory; themotionofuranus; xplanets
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1 posted on 06/26/2007 5:59:27 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: KevinDavis

Right up your alley for the Space Ping.


2 posted on 06/26/2007 6:04:49 AM PDT by EarthBound (Ex Deo,gratia. Ex astris,scientia (Duncan Hunter in 2008! http://www.gohunter08.com))
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To: BGHater

I think these eggheads are way over-thinking this.

Maybe, just maybe, some humans made errors over the past 30+ years? Perhaps?


3 posted on 06/26/2007 6:07:16 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: EarthBound

They just misplaced a decimal point.


4 posted on 06/26/2007 6:07:59 AM PDT by refermech
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To: BGHater

Kewl.


5 posted on 06/26/2007 6:11:08 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: refermech

Maybe they calculated in miles instead of kilometers, as with the Mars lander.


6 posted on 06/26/2007 6:14:27 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Diversity in theory is the enemy of diversity in practice.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Occam's razor says that somebody screwed up is a far more likely explanation than the laws of physics have changed
7 posted on 06/26/2007 6:18:49 AM PDT by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: BGHater

Maybe there is more friction in ‘empty space’ than they think? (not so empty)


8 posted on 06/26/2007 6:26:55 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: BGHater

Dumb question...tenth planet?


9 posted on 06/26/2007 6:37:00 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: lOKKI

You betcha!


10 posted on 06/26/2007 6:37:16 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Diversity in theory is the enemy of diversity in practice.)
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To: BGHater

Bet you its hyperspace!


11 posted on 06/26/2007 6:39:53 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: LachlanMinnesota

If Pioneer 10 and 11 are traveling in different directions, a tenth planet can’t be the cause


12 posted on 06/26/2007 6:40:53 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Spruce
Maybe, just maybe, some humans made errors over the past 30+ years? Perhaps?

What kind of human error could cause drifting spacecraft outside the solar system to slow down? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just not seeing a mechanism.

13 posted on 06/26/2007 6:44:48 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

V’ger is learning.


14 posted on 06/26/2007 6:51:53 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: BGHater
TAMPERING


15 posted on 06/26/2007 6:53:29 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Mr. K
friction in ‘empty space’

Ort Cloud or W.I.M.P.s?

16 posted on 06/26/2007 7:14:37 AM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: BGHater

The one groundbreaking technology needed for future extra-solar system unmanned probes is a J.S. Bell communications device. This technology, based on an oddity of quantum physics, would provide instantaneous communications across vast distances of space. And huge amounts of money are currently being spent to develop it.

It is based on the discovery of a phenomenon (roughly) that twin pairs of particles always spin in a direction with respect to each other, no matter how far they are physically apart. And when you change the spin of one, the spin of the other changes no matter where it is. And no one knows why.

And even if they were communicating with each other somehow, they are doing it faster than the speed of light.

This means that when we send a probe outside of our solar system, commands to it, and the information received back, would be instantaneous, not reliant on the huge delay of communication from the speed of light, or even worse, the signal strength of normal communications.

So we could then build probes that would just look like a steel ball, covered with armor, powered by an ion drive engine for high speed, that would not even open their armor to perform their mission until they were outside the harsh environment of our solar system.


17 posted on 06/26/2007 7:59:52 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: BGHater

The situation at the Bullet Nebula indicates that simply adjusting the law of gravity will not explain dark matter. Something else is going on.


18 posted on 06/26/2007 8:01:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: lOKKI

No, it doesn’t. The physics will have to be adjusted.


19 posted on 06/26/2007 8:02:53 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: RightWhale
No doubt, a female driver.
20 posted on 06/26/2007 8:03:00 AM PDT by BGHater (My Tagline will defend freedom.)
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