Posted on 06/25/2007 12:39:01 PM PDT by ZGuy
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Thus come the islamists.
Can Nicoli Carpathia be very for behind?
From whence the angst and fear of a Theocracy? If America had wanted a Theocracy they missed the best chance at it in 1778 or thereabouts. We had roughly 200 years to establish a Theocracy in this “Christian” nation and it didn’t happen. What in the world brings liberals to such fears of something that will never happen because of Christians?
(How long will it also be before some secular forces in Europe try to find a way, maybe through some type of international crime treaty, to silence pro-life Christians in the US. The Left cannot stand criticism or even to allow an alternative voice. When the left starts to get in its full power-stride, it will do all it can to silence every non-approved voice.)
“Can Nicoli Carpathia be very for behind?”
You forced me to educate myself a bit.
I’m afraid I’m behind on the “Left Behind” series, but did track down
the character (and the fellow that portrayed him).
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0192963/
(So much for the “Bible Belt” folks being monolithic; I attended a
very conservative/fundamentalist college and haven’t read any of
the “Left Behind” books!)
this is sickening...
the lutheran guy proves more than what he claimed; that is the german legal system is a buch of neo-nazis in that they squash free speech to promote their new holocaust!!
i’m in that country right now, i hope I don’t get arrested for saying this! but it sickens me.
Guess it's time for me to shuffle off this vale of tears. This is where I came in back in '36.
The Pastor is a political prisoner. Time to start trashing the German scum as the fascist thugs that they are.
I’m sure the New York Times and ABC will cover this and condemn it for the next 10 weeks.
What this means is that evangelicals are making inroads in Europe and the Euro elite don't like it one little bit. A certain percentage of evangelicals will go the young earth route. Those are who we are seeting in this article. But behind them, are almost certainly a lot more evangelicals. They will be persecuted for their faith in Jesus; not for their belief in one interpretation of Genesis.
More evidence of the thriving spirit of Antichrist alive and well in the world today.
But don't you know that "error has no rights?"
Hey, just because our lives have no ultimate meaning doesn't mean we still don't "need" to know the truth of how things work to navigate through this world! [/sarcasm]
Just wondering if our members from the Church of Darwin are for or against this turn of events brought to us by the socialist EU collective.
“What this means is that evangelicals are making inroads in Europe and the Euro elite don’t like it one little bit. A certain percentage of evangelicals will go the young earth route. Those are who we are seeing in this article. But behind them, are almost certainly a lot more evangelicals. ..” ~ ModelBreaker
And throughout their “report” those “elites” betray the fact that they are well aware of the real reason why they’re getting so much heat from the religious community.
I am providing some of the telling excerpts below:
Doc. 11297 - 8 June 2007
The dangers of creationism in education http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=/Documents/WorkingDocs/Doc07/EDOC11297.htm
Report
Committee on Culture, Science and Education
Rapporteur: Mr Guy LENGAGNE, France, Socialist Group
[...]
100. At the same time, it is necessary to consider the causes of such a challenge to the theory of evolution. This theory leaves itself open to many attacks but that could perhaps be explained by the poor way in which it is taught, especially from the epistemological point of view.
101. These reflections lead us to conclude that better teaching or the more appropriate teaching of the sciences and evolution might enable the dissemination of alternative pseudo-theories such as those of the creationists to be combated effectively. It is necessary to avoid doubt entering individuals minds with regard to fundamental scientific knowledge. This importance of quality science teaching that is better suited to the realities of daily life was highlighted in the report on students’ declining interest in scientific studies. ..”
[...]
The position of the Vatican and the Christian religious movements
75. For a long time, the Catholic Church was opposed to transformism and then to evolutionism. However, this opposition has to be understood in the context of the more general mistrust of science prevailing at the time, given the international climate of socialism, which it saw as a consequence of evolutionism. Thus, for a long time there were clashes between the positivist revolutionaries and the Catholics who supported the restoration of the monarchy. The Catholic Church has clearly demonstrated for a very long time that it is creationist. After the Second Vatican Council the Catholic Church was more discreet and almost remained aloof on this issue. This was until 1996, when, on 23 October, Pope John-Paul II recognised that Darwin’s theories were “more than a hypothesis”. ...
76. In the tradition of his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI now welcomes the role of the sciences in the evolution of humanity: ...In early September 2006, he brought together a group of former students and colleagues at Castel Gondolfo for a seminar on the evolutionism versus creationism debate. He published the conclusions of this seminar in mid-April 2007 in German under the title “Schöpfung und Evolution” (Creation and Evolution). ... The Pope rejects ..the theory of evolution, which hides its own weaknesses and does not want to see the questions that arise beyond the methodological capacities of science. The theory of evolution is considered too pervasive by the Catholic Church, which seems above all to be worried about the influence of social Darwinism and the evolutionist theories concerning economic matters and medical ethics. ..”
[...] End excerpts.
Note what a misleading statement this is: “...This was until 1996, when, on 23 October, Pope John-Paul II recognised that Darwin’s theories were “more than a hypothesis”.
In reality, this is precisely what the pope said:
“...What is the significance of such a theory? To address this question is to enter the field of epistemology.
A theory is a metascientific elaboration distinct from the results of observation, but consistent with them. By means of it a series of independent data and facts can be related and interpreted in a unified explanation. A theory’s validity depends on whether or not it can be verified; it is constantly tested against the facts; wherever it can no longer explain the latter, it shows its limitations and unsuitability. It must then be rethought.
Furthermore, while the formulation of a theory like that of evolution complies with the need for consistency with the observed data, it borrows certain notions from natural philosophy.
And, to tell the truth, rather than the theory of evolution, we should speak of several theories of evolution.
On the one hand, this plurality has to do with the different explanations advanced for the mechanism of evolution, and on the other, with the various philosophies on which it is based. Hence the existence of materialist, reductionist, and spiritualist interpretations. What is to be decided here is the true role of philosophy and, beyond it, of theology.
Consequently, theories of evolution which, in accordance with the philosophies inspiring them, consider the spirit as emerging from the forces of living matter or as a mere epiphenomenon of this matter are incompatible with the truth about man. Nor are they able to ground the dignity of the person. ...”
Excerpted from:
Theories of Evolution http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9703/articles/johnpaul.html
John Paul II
Copyright (c) 1997 First Things 71 (March 1997): 28-29.
Address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, October 22, 1996. bttt
Many of us don't need a fairytale to base our lives on, nor would ever think of turning to mythology to explain the natural world.
Then stop worshiping at the neo-pagan alter of the Church of Darwin. Not only do Darwinists believe a fairytale, they are now busy trying to install it as an official state sanctioned religion, complete with all the enforcement mechanisms one would expect from totalitarian minded materialists.
I hate what the Europeans are doing as much as you. I am particularly saddened to hear what happenned to that Pastor in Germany mentioned in the article.
At least six lies on two sentences! Are you trying for a new record?
==At least six lies on two sentences! Are you trying for a new record?
No, I would never think of trying to top you.
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