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The Black Community’s Lack of Respect for those in Uniform
Vanity | 24 June 2007 | Trueblackman

Posted on 06/24/2007 12:55:12 PM PDT by Trueblackman

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To: Marauder
Down here on the Gulf Coast we call that a "crab bucket" mentality, where if a crab tries to get out of the bucket, the others grab him and pull him back in.

My ex-wife is an immigrant - came here as a child in 1970 (we're on friendly terms). She does a lot of work counseling much more recent immigrants.

And she tells them flat out to learn how to think like a white man if they want to succeed in this country, because that is the culture here. But, then again, she has three degrees.

81 posted on 06/24/2007 2:49:52 PM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: Mr. Know It All
...I have a better chance of getting killed on the streets of Washington DC by another Black Man for $10, than Terrorist in Baghdad...
82 posted on 06/24/2007 2:52:04 PM PDT by Libloather (That's just what I need - some two-bit, washed up, loser politician giving me weather forecasts...)
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To: Drew68
Really, I had thought that all loads were, as you put it, ambidextrous. It was intended as a joke, a la the old ''left-handed monkey wrench''.

That NOT being the case, I quite agree it's not a topic for jokes at all.

And, thank you for your service!

83 posted on 06/24/2007 2:52:55 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Trueblackman

TBM, speaking as a mom of a sailor, I’ll bet your parents are proud of you!! :-)

Thank you for your service! We owe you, and all our military - past and present - a debt of gratitude. Your fortitude and determination is what makes this country great!

Gob Bless!
sneakers


84 posted on 06/24/2007 2:53:06 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: Trueblackman
HOO WEE thats true.. Black culture sucks so bad it vacuums up any good there.. Wear this little essay above on a sandwich sign and walk the streets of Washington D.C.

AND you might live the day.. within two days you'd be a statistic..
NAH! they'd kill you the first day..

85 posted on 06/24/2007 2:53:43 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: sneakers

Good Kevin.


86 posted on 06/24/2007 2:58:32 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Trueblackman; dakine
TBM, I appreciate your candor, and service to this country. You are NOT alone and are NOT the first person to express such sentiments.

Dakine, You are correct about the military as a means to upward mobility. As someone who has studied the history of Central and South America, I can tell you that it is true in other areas as well. Even more true down there as, to this day, the ONLY way an Indian or lower/lower middle class mestizo can rise in those societies is through the military. Sad as it is to say, Hugo Chavez wouldn't exactly be welcomed into the business world of Caracas, even if he wanted to go that route, due to race/class issues.

Thankfully, despite lingering racism, this is NOT the case for most "people of color" in the US, as evidenced by the large number (relative to other countries) of black professionals/MBAs who I meet on a regular basis. Nevertheless, among the lower middle and lower tiers of black America, what TBM (and colleagues of mine) states is often the case.

87 posted on 06/24/2007 2:59:01 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Trueblackman
Vernon Jarrett was a black and a journalist in Chicago for the Tribune in his late career and no friend of anything conservative or Republican. I didn’t read often his work and usually can’t remember most of his work since it was so forgettable, but one thing I do remember was one time he described his early life in rural Tennessee.

He said the local white power establishment paid attention to the local black(of course they didn’t use the word black) teenage boys, young men. They didn’t have a problem with the these boys bragging about their conquests the last night, last weekend, they encouraged bragging about their sexual prowess (not with white girls of course, want to make that clear). But Vernon was one of those quiet studious boys, head in a book all the time, and there were comments made about it, it wasn’t looked on with favor. Something wrong about a black boy wanting not to be ignorant, even if he was the son of two schoolteachers.

There was a hint in Vernon's story that it might have turned out poorly for him if he'd stayed in that town, but he went to a a black college, then came north to Chicago, and left that environment behind.

I guess the point of the story is that nowadays it's their fellow blacks that deride a young black man for trying to get ahead, they don't need a white mayor, a white sheriff in order to encourage young black men to waste their lives.

Anyway, I hope that your example might encourage some young men to get past the negative attitude and peer pressure. The ones that try to cut you down feel threatened by what you've accomplished that they have not, and they resent that.

88 posted on 06/24/2007 3:04:06 PM PDT by Cheburashka (DUmmieland = Opus Dopium. In all senses of the word dope.)
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To: Trueblackman

I certainly thank you for your service for our country and I truly appreciate your positive attitude. I too am a Vet and over the years I have worked with many folks of various races. The best of them - and I use the term “best” relatively - the ones I got along with “best” are those who put aside their racialness and regarded themselves as fellow members of the human race.


89 posted on 06/24/2007 3:04:16 PM PDT by lctxken ((Everybody's a character - including myself).)
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To: Trueblackman

Trueblackman, you are a man I’d like to know! I don’t really care about the color of your skin......mine is getting sort of wrinkled. You, obviously, have a great heart and that is all that matters! Come be my neighbor!


90 posted on 06/24/2007 3:04:53 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: Libloather
You really have no concept of what constitutes actual evidence of something, do you? If you're a fan of unsupported testimony from veterans with some kind of ax to grind, here some more for you.
91 posted on 06/24/2007 3:17:42 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Term Limits: Stop us before we vote again!)
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To: Trueblackman

Earlier today I spoke with my MUCH older brother who was 4F in the days of the draft. (multiple pins in his arms). He said he always felt the military experience was something he’d missed in his life. He was fortunate to have fallback positions .. he worked and went to school at night (while married with four kids), and retired on the upper end of comfortable.

Those young men who need it most, who don’t have the strong family structure, are missing the opportunity to actually make something of themselves. It’s a tragedy few are willing to look at. The odds of their making it to 30 in DC/PG are not terrific. Too many either end up being 6’ under or behind bars before that age. You were blessed .. thank you for your service and well-lived life.


92 posted on 06/24/2007 3:29:43 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: ThreePuttinDude

Thanks ThreePuttinDude!


93 posted on 06/24/2007 3:32:34 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: Trueblackman
a majority of Blacks hate to see another Black achieve anything,

Unless they are athletes or entertainers.

94 posted on 06/24/2007 3:39:37 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Trueblackman

Poor whites aren’t much better. Poor people in general have a warped culture.


95 posted on 06/24/2007 3:40:10 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Trueblackman

God bless you and those like you.


96 posted on 06/24/2007 3:43:17 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: Warrior Nurse; All; Trueblackman

Thank you for serving our country.

America needs more like you two.

True Americans are always a joy to know.


97 posted on 06/24/2007 3:59:51 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (When God spoke to the world, were you listening?)
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To: Trueblackman

I believe that people in the “black community” should cross over the border into America and assimilate. They are a perfect potential to become an American. They speak the same language, have the same religions, are accustomed to American ways and have helped build the country.

No longer should be have “Two Americas” communities, one white and one black. Come on in.


98 posted on 06/24/2007 4:03:20 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Trueblackman
Great response, Kevin.

This type of information needs to get out more and more.

The first part of your Speech at the rally in Washington, DC in Sept 2005.

Keep up the good work!

99 posted on 06/24/2007 4:53:02 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Trueblackman

*BUMP*


100 posted on 06/24/2007 5:33:02 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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