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To: RetiredArmy

“Is it January of 2009 yet? Has this fool been sent packing yet? I am totally sick and tired and fed up with GWB. He is a loser, a failure and a fake. He has lied to us regarding his stance on so much. He lied about being a conservative. He is a total waste of 8 years. He has done more damange to conservatism by himself than the Marxist’s dims have done. Time to GO RINO!!!”

I’ll tell you what irritates the heck out of me. A fair amount of years ago, some of us Freepers started to figure out that Bush wasn’t at all what he was cracked up to be. To be honest, I had reservations from the very beginning, but due to a lack of another viable candidate, voted for Bush, twice. The alternative both times was just too horrifying (Gore and Kerry). Bush was and has been mostly compassion and very little conservative. I won’t enumerate all of the examples of this, but just a few to remind: no child left behind”; campaign finance reform; Harriet Miers almost a Supreme Court Justice; tons of money sunk down a rathole in Africa for the Aids cause; Medicare Drug Plan, allowing our soldiers and border agents to be prosecuted for trumped up reasons while they were just doing their jobs; fighting a PC war; support for illegal immigration, need I go on?

For this, initially on FR, we were ostracized when we voiced our reservations or outright dislike of what Jorge Bush was doing, and the Bushbots reigned supreme on most of the threads. I can’t tell you how many spats (and some bans) I and others who first saw the light had to endure because we saw more clearly that which finally many are coming to see themselves. We (those of like mind to myself) had to suffer the slings and arrows of assorted alleged conservatives who couldn’t seem to see what was developing right in front of their very noses.

I suppose vindication is now mine and those who saw what was coming like I did a long time ago. Now I worry that, just like before, everyone is going to jump on the Fred Thompson bandwagon just like everyone did on the Bush bandwagon, before really getting a better grasp on the candidate (or potential candidate in Fred’s case). Now, Fred might turn out to be the best of the lot, but I hope everyone doesn’t just jump in here with Fred as their knight in shining armor, without waiting to hear what he says and how he acts on the campaign trail once he jumps in. Please, Freepers, make an informed choice this time, as the last one sure didn’t pan out, did he? I, for one, am going to hold back this time, until late in the game, so that I can make the best choice possible amongst the field of candidates. I don’t want to be burned again, if possible. What worries me about Fred Thompson is that he was an admirer of John McInsane, whom I’d rather be dead than vote for. He supported the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform bill. I know, now he says it had flaws; does that make him a flip flopper like Romney is accused of being? And, I believe Thompson is most likely also a free trade globalist. Well, we’ve got one of those right now, and he’s made treaties with tons of countries, but somehow we are the country whose deficit keeps going up exponentially, and Bush’s globalist policies has led to his open borders stance, and his so what if we export all our manufacturing jobs overseas, and his one big happy American continent, all united, and thus all of us achieving third world status together somewhere down the line (I hope I’m dead before it happens).

I don’t trust that Thompson will be that different than Bush on illegal immigration, as he is for a guest worker program; I want to hear the details of how he would perceive such a guest worker program working. It’s all in the details, isn’t it. So please, Freepers, take it slow here, before making a decision that could impact us for the next 4-8 years. I don’t want another Bush, nor do I want to have to read through a bunch of Bushbot-like threads by people wearing blinders to the truth on FR. Makes my eyes and brain hurt.


148 posted on 06/23/2007 10:54:01 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: flaglady47

You wrote a more detailed message concerning the same issue about Bush for which I had been flamed here (and banned) years ago.

There should have been no celebration when Bush was re-elected. Freepers should have immediately responded with a grim and determined attitude to hold him accountable for the next four years. I was “shouted” down here when I made such a suggestion. Will people ever get a clue about politicians.

Unfortunately, I find that most people don’t learn from their mistakes.

Still hang in there and keep fighting.


152 posted on 06/24/2007 6:07:33 AM PDT by HighFlier
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To: flaglady47
I’m with you FL47. This next election, I am going to look harder than I ever have at candidates from the RINO party and third party candidates. I will never vote for a Marxist’s dimocrat. People here and elsewhere yell that I am wasting my vote if I go for a 3d party person. What other choice do you have? I am tired, simply sick and tired of HAVING to vote for a republican simply because I am voting for the better of the two evils. I am tired of it. That is what the RINO’s hope for, that we will vote this way. I guess they are just going to have to pay the price. I see very little difference in the accomplishments in Bush that Klinton had. Other than the war on terror, Bush has outspent the Klinton klan by billions and billions. He has done everything a Marxist dimocrat would do anyway, so duh, why vote for Bush? I am finished voting for republicans out of their “fear mongering” of us. Telling us how HORRIBLE it will be with the Marxist’s in charge. I see little difference now!!! My taxes dropped very little under the Bush tax plan, and I wound up paying more taxes to the damned state, county, city and other crap, so what did I gain???? I am simply sick of republicans and their crap. I am finished GIVING them my vote. Done, finished. Damn it, they are going to have to convince me now that they deserve it. No more freebies!!!
172 posted on 06/24/2007 6:09:27 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Votes are IN!! It's Official. Bush is DECLARED A FULL BLOODED RINO!!!)
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