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To: Tax-chick
>>And an anti-gun, pro-abortion socialist.

The NRA endorsed the Mass gun bill he signed and put out press releases pointing out the Boston Globe's lies about it. But hey if you are happy to push Lib talking points here on FR feel free.

63 posted on 06/23/2007 4:00:14 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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5) CONVERSION OF THE INDIAN PEOPLES.

In D&C 3.3 (1828) it says, “Remember, that it is not the work of God that is frustrated, but the work of men.” This verse is considered sacred scripture by Mormons; and that means that Mormons, logically, must apply it to their history and Joseph Smith’s prophecies. If Smith’s prophecies were frustrated, then those prophecies were the work of men, not of God!

D&C 3.16-20 says that the Lamanites (Indians) will be converted. For a century and a half, the LDS missionaries have been trying to convert their “Lamanite brothersî and have not done so. The vast majority of Indians are not Mormons, and most of the few who become LDS turn inactive. This has obviously not been fulfilled, after many years and spending vast amounts of money on programs to convert Indians.

6) WHITE AND DELIGHTSOME INDIANS.

Speaking of the Lamanites, the Book of Mormon (BOM) contains a prophecy about them which can easily be put to the test. 2 Nephi 30.6 prophesies that the Indians who converted would turn “white and delightsome” a few generations after joining the church. This is what is written in the original, handwritten manuscript of 2 Nephi 30. It is in the original 1830 edition of the Book of Mormon.

However, in 1840, Joseph Smith, evidently thinking to correct the “most correct book ever written,” ordered the phrase changed to “pure and delightsome.” Then later, Brigham Young ordered it changed back to “white and delightsome.” Then in 1981, it was again changed back to “pure and delightsome”, even though the correction does not clean up the parts of the BOM where they are turned from white and delightsome to “dark and loathsome.”

A honest reader would have to speculate that since over 160 years have passed (4 Biblical generations) since Indians began joining the church, that at least some of them would have to turned at least a little whiter. None of them have; and this is evidently why they changed the verse without so much as a word of explanation.

37) NASA, PHONE JOSEPH SMITH!

Joseph Smith, not content with banking; also tried his hand at exo-biology and astronomy. He declared in 1837: “Inhabitants of the Moon are more of a uniform size than the inhabitants of the Earth, being about 6 feet in height. They dress very much like the Quaker Style & and quite general in Style, or the one fashion of dress. They live to be very old; coming generally near a thousand years. This is the description of them as given by Joseph Smith the Seer.

Although Mormons will try and deny that Joseph Smith ever really taught this nonsense, they will find it confirmed from Brigham Young; who also taught it; and added that there were people also living in the sun! Obviously, modern science has condemned these prophecies to the ashcan of bad science fiction!

41) JESUS’ RETURN

Joseph Smith made this reference to the Second Coming of Jesus: “Were I going to prophesy, I would say the end [of the world] would not come in 1844, 5 or 6, or in forty years. There are those of the rising generation who shall not taste death till Christ comes.

“I was once praying earnestly upon this subject, and a voice said unto me, “My son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years of age, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man.” I was left to draw my own conclusions concerning this, and I took the liberty to conclude that if I did live to that time, He would make His appearance. But I do not say whether He will make His appearance or I shall go where He is. I prophesy in the name of the Lord God, and let it be writtenóthe Son of Man will not come in the clouds of heaven till I am eighty-five years old.”[48 years hence or about 1890…]

Interestingly enough, this passage is taken from Smith’s diary; and modern LDS “historians” have removed the phrase “48 years hence or about 1890” because it so clearly demonstrates the falsity of the prophecy .

Obviously, none of the “rising generation” ever saw Jesus’ coming. Jesus certainly did not come in “about 1890.” A century has passed since that date; and Smith’s prophecy lies dead and buried along with that “rising generation.”

51) WAS LYMAN WIGHT RIGHT?

Although not as directly involving Smith as the previous 50 prophecies have, this incident in 1831 during an ordination ceremony of Lyman Wight done by Smith shows that he taught and believed that Jesus would come within a generation: “The Spirit of the Lord fell upon Joseph in an unusual manner, and he prophesied that John the Revelator was then among the Ten Tribes of Israel…He prophesied many more things I have not written. After he had prophesied, he laid his hands upon Lyman Wight and ordained him to the High Priesthood, after the holy order of God. And the Spirit fell upon Lyman and he prophesied concerning the coming of Christ. He said that there were some in the congregation that should live until the Savior should descend from heaven with a shout, with all the holy angels with him.”

As we have had to observe many times before here, all the people of that generation have been in their graves for years. And Jesus hasn’t come. According to the Bible, if Joseph Smith had disagreed with Lyman’s prophecy, or felt he was off-base; he should have corrected himóespecially since he was the “senior prophet”, rather than let false teaching go abroad into the congregation while he was present.(1 Cor.14:29) Smith was not usually shy about rebuking those he disagreed with, and he let this prophecy stand, primarily because it agreed with several of his own.


76 posted on 06/23/2007 4:12:45 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 3..GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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To: Rameumptom

I was talking about Rudy Giuliani.

But if you want to be rude when you don’t even read through responses to see what they were responses to (as it were) feel free.


101 posted on 06/23/2007 4:33:07 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.)
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